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Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:45 pm
by CureOrBust
I can't remember why I started to look this up, but it actually occurred to me that I have never read a published article on Cows milk's relation with MS, but many many pages on the web to avoid it. So I did a quick search on Google scholar, and found this one.
http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/pr ... Doi=110295
Correlation Analysis between Bovine Populations, Other Farm Animals, House Pets, and Multiple Sclerosis Prevalence
In a previous study we analyzed the possible relationship between dairy product consumption and multiple sclerosis (MS) worldwide. We showed that a good correlation (Spearman rank ρ = 0.836), statistically strongly significant (p < 0.0001), existed between liquid cow milk consumption and MS prevalence. The interpretation of this strong correlation between MS and milk consumption is still unclear: fresh milk could be considered as a cofactor, but it could also reflect a much stronger association with MS of another unstudied factor, well correlated with milk consumption (yet, this is not the case for latitude). Obviously, the bovine population in each country and, particularly milk cows, has to be considered. In the present study, we analyze the correlations existing between the figures of national, cow milk production and MS prevalence in 20 countries. We also analyze the correlations with the whole bovine, ovine, caprine, porcine, horse, poultry, cat and dog populations. Here again we find significant correlations between (i) cow milk production per inhabitant, (ii) national bovine density per inhabitant, and (iii) local bovine geographic density, and MS prevalence. However, these correlations are relatively weaker than that found with fresh liquid milk consumption in our previous study. No correlation is found with other farm animals or with pets in the same countries. The epidemiological significance of these results, suggesting a preponderant role of fresh cow milk, is discussed.
I did not find any regarding the effects of drinking cows milk with a diagnosis of MS. Personally its in my avoid pile, but I wanted to see some research on it. Anyone know of a published article on its effects?
Re: Cows milk ans statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:15 pm
by Bouncycat
I am afraid i don't have any references for you, and regarding the one you have here, unfortunately correlation studies are not always sufficient to identify causation. Just because things are correlated does not mean there is any causation at all. So for this particular study i would not draw any conclusion regarding milk consumption and MS.
I think Jelineks book has a discussion on the link between dairy and MS? a while since i read it though so i could be wrong.
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:14 pm
by CureOrBust
and that is why I said "statistical" correlation and not proof.
Do you remember by chance if Jenlineks book contained any references to any study or published articles.
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:27 pm
by Bouncycat
fair enough
i have the book around here somewhere, i will dig it out and take a look. if you have not read it i found it an interesting read as it has his personal story in it as well as the usual. worth a library loan at least IMO.
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:36 am
by tzootsi
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:30 am
by Bouncycat
I found my Jelinek book. There is much less in it than i thought but a few references, i will type them out later. But I saw this today and had to post it - pretty funny (and helps anyone wondering what we were 'talking' about regarding correlation v causation).
http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/Images/etc_co ... 1__960.jpg
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:02 am
by mrbarlow
Bouncycat wrote:I found my Jelinek book. There is much less in it than i thought but a few references, i will type them out later. But I saw this today and had to post it - pretty funny (and helps anyone wondering what we were 'talking' about regarding correlation v causation).
http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/Images/etc_co ... 1__960.jpg
Higher rates of milk consumption tend to correlate with high latititude which brings us back to the Vit D / UV issue. I suspect milk consumption is associative rather than causative although I wouldn't discount milk playing a part in secondary inflammatory processes going on in MS.
Re: Cows milk and statistical Correlation with MS
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:16 pm
by CureOrBust
CureOrBust wrote:I did not find any regarding the effects of drinking cows milk with a diagnosis of MS. Personally its in my avoid pile, but I wanted to see some research on it. Anyone know of a published article on its effects?
With all the press regarding milk a nd MS, I really though someone would of performed and published something on a poissible effect/correlation in progression between these two; ie existing MS.
And may I add
, the correlation between the mountain range and the NY murders really makes me wanna see if there is another mountain to the right of these!
