| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Terry Family Elder

Joined: Oct 27, 2007 Posts: 272
|
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah Robbie! Go for it! I think I will be as happy as you are when you are on the mend!
Terry |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RedPenguins Family Member

Joined: Apr 27, 2008 Posts: 82 Location: Los Angeles, CA
|
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm so glad more people are finding out about this.... I hope this is available more readily to people in the future.... It is hard - since I know I had to seek it out - and feel like I "stumbled" onto it - no one told me - including my docs.....and I go to one of the top MS places in southern california! Yet, all the docs would say is that I'm rapidly declining.
I would think JH wouldn't mind where you are coming from. And the cost is AMAZING and outstanding....especially when you consider that the insurance rate is SO much less than the cash figure. I'm very glad I have (good) insurance. Actually - let's see this week when I hope to hear from them about my approval.
I say - send your records over - the more the merrier!
~Keri |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Brainteaser Family Elder

Joined: Jan 15, 2005 Posts: 165 Location: Melbourne, Australia
|
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks for your responses. It sounds like JH might be a option for OS patients although locals would have every right to feel a bit miffed.
Sandonpoint - go ahead and be as sarcastic as you like. Sorry to tell you but the way the US$ is dropping against our currency, $80k will be about 2 weeks wages before long!!
Seriously, when your health is at risk and there's an excellent prospect of success, why wouldn't you invest in your future? In the end it's the results which will count.
Phil |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RedPenguins Family Member

Joined: Apr 27, 2008 Posts: 82 Location: Los Angeles, CA
|
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
Phil - I'm begging and borrowing $ to be able to have this treatment. Actually, I wonder if I resorted to stealing and ended up in jail if the government would then pay for my treatment?! Hmmmmm. Makes you think!
I don't know that locals would be upset. Surely there's enought poisonous curing drugs to go around
As or 80k....I can pretty much only get two tanks of gas for my car for that price!
~Keri |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
susan Newbie


Joined: Jan 15, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: rhode island
|
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Waiting for an Appointment |
|
|
I'm glad I was able to provide you with a little gleam of hope.
At times, I am unable to do just that. Thank you for giving me hope.
Off subject; Does anybody know anything about neurons and MS? My neuro mentioned this-as I presently do not have any active lesions, the continued disibility is caused by the neurons disipating; not good news- |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
robbie Family Elder

Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
|
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | JHH won't be treating SPMS (me) until the fall. |
i wonder if they will have a maxium EDSS to limit being accepted. _________________ ~i guess i know i just hate how it sounds~
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Lyon Family Elder

Joined: May 04, 2006 Posts: 3397 Location: Mid-Michigan
|
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Waiting for an Appointment |
|
|
| susan wrote: | | Off subject; Does anybody know anything about neurons and MS? My neuro mentioned this-as I presently do not have any active lesions, the continued disibility is caused by the neurons disipating; not good news- | Hi Susan,
What your neuro told you is so simple as to be neither completely accurate nor inaccurate and is in no way specific to you or SPMS. Neurons have been dissipating in people with MS long before they were aware of a problem, much less having reached the point of seeking diagnosis. You're right, it's not good news but your situation is pretty much an accumulation of what has been going on all along.
By "continued disability" do you truly mean "continued disability" or "increasing disability"?
Bob _________________ Wife diagnosed with MS in Feb. 2006 and is a participant in the Tovaxin IIb clinical trial. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
susan Newbie


Joined: Jan 15, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: rhode island
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Waiting for an Appointment |
|
|
Hi Bob,
I have increased and continued disability. My legs are weaker and now my right arm is on its way to useless. My balence is non-existant not to mention, bladder issues and swallowing problems.
It is very difficult to stay positive, but I'm trying. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Kyle Family Member

Joined: Jun 10, 2008 Posts: 68
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
The only problem I have with this treatment is they are claiming to reboot the immune system therefore no more MS. good news folks! But I think they may in fact slow it down, I feel the MS will still continue in the background. meaning when people slip into SPMS, yes that is always going on the background. I am guessing their hope is to prevent MS from going into that phase? I dont think they can. I think MS is more than treating the inflammation and we'll all go into SPMS evenutualy. I dont think they can prevent it.
This disease makes me sad, not only in my life but reading so many others who suffer also. I read here and in other drug treatment threads desperate people almost willing to sell their family to get the money for these treatements. I had high hopes for revimmune over all the other treatment except for stem cell therapy. But I am not seeing enough to say HEY this is what we all need! I think this has been over hyped a bit, mostly in this forum. Not a bad thing really but it has caused some hystria.
It seems like we are all parched in the desert and JH hold the water for us to drink. I don't think they do at this point. Maybe getting closer but not quite. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chrishasms Family Elder

Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 403
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
Well I have not had one new symptom in 3 months. I had nothing even close to that kind of success with a crab.
My EDSS is down and my weight / body fat percentage has become less lopsided with my activity now.
I used to take 4 hours of naps a day and take none now. I have no fatigue anymore. None. Zero. Zilch. Gone. Nadda.
There has been one drawback to this treatment. Because I am getting better I can actually feel I have Carpel Tunnel now from using a cane.
I figure if you diag yourself instead of letting JH look at your records you are being awfully nice by giving someone else your spot. You will never catch any of us who are feeling better after taking your place in line saying we regret it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
robbie Family Elder

Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | Well I have not had one new symptom in 3 months. I had nothing even close to that kind of success with a crab.
|
chris is it rr ms that you have? and how many attacks would you have in three months? _________________ ~i guess i know i just hate how it sounds~
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Kyle Family Member

Joined: Jun 10, 2008 Posts: 68
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Chris I am glad you are improving, for now. I have thought about sending my records, but I think they will take just about anyone willing to have this procedure done. I read it's open label, that means pretty much anyone qualifies for this treatment.
Anyone know why they are doing this vs going on with stage III of the trials? Now they are treating SPMS when before they claimed it was hardly a benefit for them? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chrishasms Family Elder

Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 403
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Clinically speaking...aka MRI activity wise I had RRMS. According to their cute little disability chart I was PPMS.
I had one exasperation in June of 2004 and never got better. Every MRI I ever had up until now had SOMETHING active in it. Clinically speaking I was never not under attack. MS symptom wise I was constantly getting worse.
As far as "for now"...lolol!!!
I doubt I need to worry about the MS anymore. This is a treatment that can be done up to around 7-10 times in a lifetime...maybe more. Age does play a factor. HiCy is not just run of the mill Cytoxin. If my MRI does reactivate I will go get this again. Getting sick for three days is way better than taking a worthless shot that makes you feel ill and you still get worse.
Speaking of getting better...I will have some vid of me up later and some pics of my MRI on my site later. The vid will be the difference in clonus in three months. I'm off to go lay in a tube and get some good news!! It feels so good to look forward to an MRI lol. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
HiCy Family Member

Joined: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 57
|
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kyle,
I would not be so down on the treatment. Having gone through this I would have to say that it is not for everyone and the results will vary. I still think it is better that some of the other CRABS especially if they are not working. I believe that once there is more data, especially with copaxone the numbers will look pretty good compared to the other treatments.
HiCy |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chrishasms Family Elder

Joined: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 403
|
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
Well for the first time in my MS career I freaked in the tube. 10 or more MRI's as well. I will try in an open MRI on Fri.
DAMN IT
The dude who does all my MRI's couldn't believe it either. He says it's my body saying it's finally OK and doesn't need to be in that tube anymore.
I know he is right.
---Brett-er-HiCY read your emails! lol |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|