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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: Marijuana for RLS
Marijuana
This illegal drug seems to have very beneficial effects for RLS. There are no known medical studies on this drug for RLS as the drug is not available even for medical research. There have been many anecdotal reports on the effectiveness of this drug for RLS.
According to the reports from patients who have used marijuana, it often takes only a very small amount of the drug (often as little as 2 inhalations of a marijuana cigarette) to relieve RLS symptoms. The onset of action of this drug can be amazingly fast with complete symptom relief occurring within 2-3 minutes.
This drug should be used with caution as the long term effects of smoking marijuana are not fully known and, of course, since the drug is illegal, legal problems may occur if the user is caught by police.
Currently there is a drug called Marinol (dronabinol) that is FDA approved for the treatment of anorexia associated with weight loss in patients with AIDS and nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy in patients who have failed to respond adequately to conventional anti-nausea treatments. This drug contains delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta-9-THC) which is the active ingredient of marijuana.
The effect of taking oral Marinol capsules is quite different from smoking marijuana. After oral administration, Marinol has an onset of action of approximately 0.5 to 1 hours and peak effect at 2 to 4 hours with a duration of action for psychoactive effects of 4 to 6 hours and does not cause the so called "high feeling". Marijuana, when smoked will onset within seconds to a few minutes with very high peak blood levels compared to the lower steady levels that onset slowly with Marinol.
Patients find that Marinol does not work as dramatically as smoking marijuana. Based on anecdotal clinical patient reports it appears that a minority of RLS sufferers may experience a modest benefit for their RLS symptoms with Marinol. This drug comes in 2.5, 5 and 10 mg tablets that can be taken up to 2-3 times per day with a maximum daily dose of 20 mg.
I am at my wits end here!! I can't take the RLS anymore. If anyone has any feedback on this please share with me. My Mirapex has seemed to have stopped working for me and I am looking for alternative treatments (mj) being one of them. Thanks arti
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:42 am Post subject:
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Hi robbie, do you have RLS? just how bad is your? and how well does it work? mj , that is. thanks arti
I’m not sure about RLS but my legs constantly spasm, a little pot and the spasms stop. _________________ ~i guess i know i just hate how it sounds~
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out
I have smoked mj for a long time but have found it surprisingly unhelpful for MS. In fact it makes my pain worse, has no effect on my spasms and makes my walking worse. I found alcohol helpful in stopping spasms but had to drink about half a bottle to knock them on the head. Since starting high doses of salvia miltiorrhiza and curcumin the spasms seem to have really quietened down. _________________ 1st traceable symptoms Jan 01, last edss by doctor 6.5. Feeling better on ginkgo, salvia, capsaicin, curcumin, scutellaria. Interested in other vascular strengthening herbs; pycnogenol, butcher's broom, horsechestnut, centenella, hersperidin
Just shows how different this damned disease affects us all. Lots of people get help from the MJ. Wish I could. I still smoke it as it makes television hilarious and one can laugh instead of cry at all the shite that goes around.
I would entirely recommend curcumin and salvia as well as they have both helped enormously and they are all natural and both are used in chinese medicine a lot. I recently upped my dose of salvia to 14grams a day and I've really noticed an improvement in my walking, my spasms, the spasticity, the bladder, the bowel, the lot. I experiment a lot with natural drugs and update my regimen section with the results. I try to have regular kidney and liver function tests and so far have had nothing untoward occur in these organs on the natural products.
Good luck with the MJ. I recommend the ventilator method of inhaling the THC. My ventilator is called by these dudes:
http://www.storz-bickel.com/vaporizer/storz-bickel-company-vaporizer-manufacturer.html _________________ 1st traceable symptoms Jan 01, last edss by doctor 6.5. Feeling better on ginkgo, salvia, capsaicin, curcumin, scutellaria. Interested in other vascular strengthening herbs; pycnogenol, butcher's broom, horsechestnut, centenella, hersperidin
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:41 am Post subject:
try anything you can before mj arti you don't want to make your ms worse, or just try it and see for yourself if it helps it's a tough one. lol _________________ ~i guess i know i just hate how it sounds~
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out
I have smoked (when I was younger) and always enjoyed it, but got kinda paranoid after-wards, LOL. I would smoke crack if it would cure my ms, jk.
Thanks for the input !!!arti
Joined: Sep 11, 2007 Posts: 662 Location: southern California
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:25 am Post subject:
Hey Arti...
You share the RLS/spasms nightmare with Jeff, too.
He tried ECEG/Green tea last week. I got it for fatigue, but his spasms really quieted down. He didn't even kick me last night
Jeff takes Natural Calm, baclofen, curcumin, serrapeptase, mag/zinc/calcium and now green tea- especially for spasms.
Exercise helps, but not right away, usually the day after.
Hope you find something to take the edge off.
AC _________________ Husband diagnosed RRMS March 2007
pursuing endothelial healing
Copaxone, Swank, supplements, laughter
Strange!!! I notice this often. When I am working on my computer or reading some of "Robbie's" humor, my RLS doesn't exists. It is when I am not concentrating or just sitting doing nothing that is when it acts up the worst.
When I am reading or concentrating it's gone.
I wonder what part of the mind controls this. Why can't they come up with a cure for such a nasty little problem? When I am at rest, before bed, my legs go crazy, but if I am concentrating then things are fine?
This pisses me off!!
Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Durango, Co
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject:
Of all the crap we are willing to inject into our system to suppress MS, why would you ever hesitate to try the MJ route? I would say over 50% of my local group medicates with MJ and the comments are overwhelmingly positive. I have cut down my prescription meds dramatically. The thought of filling my system with prescription meds forever isn't acceptable. I should add that I am in a "Legal MJ' state with a license.
Take Good Care,
Lars
Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 273 Location: Durango, Co
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject:
Arti,
Over the course of a couple years, I can't even remember. Neurontin (sp?) and about 3 other versions of it, 2 different sleep meds to get past spasms and rls, a few prescription pain meds, even morphine at one point. I quit it all and became a user/abuser of Soma, a muscle relaxer and the only thing that seemed to help. After nearly a year of it my intake probably tripled. I am told by my Neuro it is highly addictive but I really didn't care. Using MJ I rarely do Soma at this point but strangely today was one of those days. Every thing in moderation I suppose.
Lars
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