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cheerleader Family Elder

Joined: Sep 11, 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: southern California
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Hi Inge-
There are no medications that can fix a venous malformation like we are seeing in MS patients. The veins are literally crimped or collapsed. Only surgery can correct this.
This thread is for research only-please post questions by starting a new topic, or use the search function to see if your question has been answered before-
cheer _________________ Husband dx RRMS 3/07
dx dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) 4/09
dual stents placed 5/09
CCSVI in MS |
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Inge67 Family Member

Joined: Sep 29, 2009 Posts: 49 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: Medications? |
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| Thank you Cheerleader. I knew that I was probably posting sonewhere wrong, but things are nee to me. Thank you for your prompt reply, this confirms what I thought. I will try to get my neuro on board and all the info you supplied hopefully helps. Thanks for all the thourough work! |
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mrhodes40 Family Elder

Joined: Sep 24, 2004 Posts: 2028 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have to add for people who come to this page first---
PLEASE go to page one post #2 and read all the research on that constantly updated post .......... it is current all the time with the newest material posted right in it.......  |
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CureOrBust Family Elder

Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 1903 Location: Sydney, Australia
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ewizabeth Family Elder

Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 270 Location: Near Chicago
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Maybe this will seem like a really dumb question, but, how do we know that this is going to help? I mean, having a stent put into an artery? This is supposed to affect inflammation in the brain and spine? Why are people having this done? Is there research to show that it works? If there is then that's great, but how do we know that this is going to help? Are there clinical trials that have shown this to be beneficial? _________________ Take care, Ewizabeth Previously Avonex, Rebif & Copaxone RRMS ~Tysabri, 31 infusions, ended 9/09. Starting Copaxone 12/09, waiting for Cladribine to be approved in 2010. |
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MaggieMae Family Elder

Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 288 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Ewizabeth,
It is not the arteries. CCSVI deals with the veins. Start by reading the stickies. These questions have been asked and answered many times on this forum. |
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ewizabeth Family Elder

Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 270 Location: Near Chicago
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Maggie,
I did some reading and this really is interesting! I'm going to ask the MS neuro about it at the end of October and get his take on it.  _________________ Take care, Ewizabeth Previously Avonex, Rebif & Copaxone RRMS ~Tysabri, 31 infusions, ended 9/09. Starting Copaxone 12/09, waiting for Cladribine to be approved in 2010. |
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mrhodes40 Family Elder

Joined: Sep 24, 2004 Posts: 2028 Location: USA
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Sotiris Family Member

Joined: Dec 05, 2009 Posts: 47 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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The following paper is now free.
Anomalous venous blood flow and iron deposition in multiple sclerosis
Ajay Vikram Singh and Paolo Zamboni
html version: shortened URL
pdf version: shortened URL |
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mrhodes40 Family Elder

Joined: Sep 24, 2004 Posts: 2028 Location: USA
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Sotiris Family Member

Joined: Dec 05, 2009 Posts: 47 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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P. Zamboni et al. 2009: The severity of CCSVI in patients with MS is related to altered Cerebrospinal Fluid dynamics. Functional Neurology, Vol. 24, No. 3, pp. 133-138.
After registration, the full paper is available free of charge (with a watermark about the copyright, i.e. "© CIC EDIZIONI INTERNAZIONALI")
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thisisalex Family Member

Joined: Dec 03, 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: Haacke MR prot. |
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Hi
I looked for the Haacke protocol, and a direct google search on the site (search string was: "pdf site:ms-mri.com" came up with a really great stuff. It looks like it is the detailed description of the Haacke MR protocol with detailed notes, historical connections, even about the processing of the collected data...
shortened URL
sorry if this is only new for me, but i didnt read about this document before here on the forum...
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SammyJo Family Elder

Joined: Mar 11, 2004 Posts: 152
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks thisisalex, I haven't seen this more detailed prprpsal from Haacke.
Here is a post, that has links to the Haacke protocol, which are still on his server.
Where to get MRV protocol - http://www.thisisms.com/ftopict-9107.html
If all MS patients reuired this protocol be done as part of their annual MRI scan, we'd have an answer about how many MS patients have jugular stenosis. _________________ RRMS '96 SPMS '02 | Dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) | 10/09 3 stents, 1 angioplasty. Details http://healingpowernow.com |
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taxi Getting to Know You...

Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: broken link |
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hello! this is my first post so I would like to give my huge thanks and gratitude to to everyone here for what they've done. I'm here on behalf of my wife who was diagnosed with RRMS about 9 months ago (but has probably had it for about 5 years). I'll reserve my comments for later because I wanted simply to report a broken link in the research section.
the link is the big one "Zamboni presentation 2006 The big idea: iron dependant inflammation in venous disease an proposed parallels in MS" which points to http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~rauscher/labproject.pdf - unfortunately this links to a 404.
A quick google gives the following page:
http://jrsm.rsmjournals.com/cgi/content/full/99/11/589
As I never saw the original paper I'm not certain that this is the same thing, but it looks like a good alternative link since it's HTML with a PDF option.
thanks again to everyone!
cheers
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NHE Volunteer Moderator

Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 1221
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: Re: broken link |
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Hi Taxi,
Thanks for pointing out the broken link. I have fixed it.
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