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JanethePain
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: question Reply with quote

It's awfully hard to stay "politically neutral" on a topic like "health care" that impacts those of us who hang out here. Are most of us in the same boat, though: insured at the moment but living in dread of when that could change?

Should I assume we're all pretty much singin' out of the same songbook when it comes to all these "plans" before the Congress--with a favorite we MUCH prefer above the rest?

Or are all of you, like me, suffering extra-heavy-duty vertigo watching the politicos dodging the ball?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jane,

My wife and I have had good insurance through our employer for 30 years, but ongoing and continual rising medical/insurance costs long ago made it obvious that employer paid health care needs to be eliminated at the first possible opportunity. That has been the number one contention during uni0n contract negotiations for at least the last 10 years. I'd be VERY surprised if my wife and I have employer paid insurance two years from now and I think that scenario is playing out all over the country and the point that the current situation isn't going to stay the same is the most important point in all of this.

I have to give the opponents of nationalized health care the benefit of the doubt in that they must also genuinely care about what the future holds for their own health care and that of their children and that they are sincerely concerned that the cost of nationalized health care will be exorbitant.

I share the same concerns and where our difference lies is that I'm convinced that health care costs are going to continue their upward spiral as are insurance costs. At this point it seems obvious that in the surprisingly near future most everyone else will lose their employer paid health insurance and health insurance policies and health care costs are going to be out of reach of everyone but the very rich and the very poor.

I'm not crazy about the choices but it seems the only realistic option is nationalized health care because the only other option is no health care for me in my old age and for my children's generation.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyon wrote:

I'm not crazy about the choices but it seems the only realistic option is nationalized health care because the only other option is no health care for me in my old age and for my children's generation.


Agreed. And as a small business owner, I am right at this very moment considering killing our health plan to save jobs. Problem is that I'm on it! Then what?

I hear a lot of understandable fear but not too many solutions. And that's one of the main reasons I've turned off the media almost completely over the last six months.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrickm wrote:
Agreed. And as a small business owner, I am right at this very moment considering killing our health plan to save jobs. Problem is that I'm on it! Then what?
That's the exact issue I thought Obama should have been most clear on and wasn't. He mentioned small businesses and whether they couldn't and couldn't afford participation and penalties for both businesses and individuals who could afford to participate and oped out....but who decides who can and can't afford to participate?
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