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Lainie
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Omega 3 & 6 - how much do you take? Reply with quote

If you are supplementing with omega 3 and/or 6 and/or 9 by taking fish oil or flaxseed oil capsules, how much do you take a day? How many mg per day?

I've been reading all the postings about supplementing with omega acids, and although they all agree that it can be good for MS, none seem to indicate a specific dosage. I'd love to hear how much you guys out there are taking. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Omega 3 & 6 - how much do you take Reply with quote

Lainie wrote:
I've been reading all the postings about supplementing with omega acids, and although they all agree that it can be good for MS, none seem to indicate a specific dosage.

In the following study, 6 grams of fish oil per day were used. There was a significant decline in proinflammatory cytokines in both the control group as well as in the MS patients. I realize it's not much, but hopefully it will give you a starting point for making comparisons.

Cytokine secretion and eicosanoid production in the peripheral blood mononuclear cells of MS patients undergoing dietary supplementation with n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids.
J Neuroimmunol. 1995 Feb;56(2):143-53.
    To demonstrate the influence of n-3 PUFA supplementation on cytokine and eicosanoid production in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) of MS patients (MSP), we investigated the impact of a 6-month dietary supplementation with these fatty acids on the levels of interleukin-1 beta (IL-1 beta), IL-2, interferon-gamma (IFN-gamma) and tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha) in the supernatants of stimulated PBMCs and serum soluble IL-2 receptors in a group of 20 relapsing-remitting (R-R) MSP and a group of 15 age-matched control individuals (CI). The production of PGE2 and LTB4 in the stimulated PBMCs was also assessed in patient and control groups supplemented with n-3 PUFAs. In both groups, n-3 PUFA supplementation led to a significant decrease in the levels of IL-1 beta and TNF-alpha, and this reduction was more pronounced in the 3rd and 6th month of supplementation. An analogous decrease was observed in the levels of IL-2 and IFN-gamma produced by stimulated PBMCs, and in the levels of serum soluble IL-2 receptors. n-3 PUFA supplementation also appeared to significantly affect prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) and leukotriene B4 (LTB4) production in PBMCs, both in MSP and the control group. The reduced production of these proinflammatory eicosanoids, and the decrease of some cytokines with an immunohenancing effect as a consequence of n-3 PUFA supplementation, could modulate some immune functions which have been demonstrated to be altered in MSP.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take 18 grams of fish oil. A high amount but in line with Professor George Jelinek's recommendations for omega 3 supplementation in his book 'Taking Control of MS'

I've also dramatically reduced my intake of saturated fats to compensate so I'm not taking too much fat in my diet.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too (try) to take about 16grams a day; or more.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take 6 grams a day. Three pills in the morning with breakfast and three at night with dinner. I also take two grams of flax oil a day. One pill in the morning and one with dinner. I found it can get pretty expensive to take more than this since the fish oil can cost a fair amount. I also have reduced my intake of omega 6 oils so that I have a better balance between omega 6 and 3. Try to eat more fish and walnuts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that The two essential fats should be consumed in equal ratio of 1/1...1 tablespoon for every 50lbs of body weight.the omega 6 is easily obtained from olive oil, butter, coconut oil.....the omega 3 can come from flaxseed oil, dark green leafy vegetables and fish oil.......there are countless other food sources to obtain these essential oils from..but the body produces omega 9 from the 3 and 6.....to restore balance you may want to use the ratio of 2/1 for a short time....double the omega 3 to your intake of omega 6. this infor comes from a site I have in my fovorites.....if you want the site let me know
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heya, i mostly just have omega fatty acids in my diet right now. when i do supplement them, i just buy a pre-mixed blend and follow the instructions on the bottle.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first got MS I took fish-oil capsules as recommended. Then "they" decided it didn't help with MS after all. OK.

Lately I attended a lecture on nutrition. The lecturer said we are all taking far too many supplements, a healthy varied diet makes all supplements redundant for normal healthy people. Then he mentioned omega-3. He said, it is recommended for people with MS. OK. Then he said, but which omega-3? He spouted a long list of different ones. He said, look at the packet and see which ones are in it.

So my question is, which omega-3 is the one we need, and do we really need it anyway?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Omega 3 & 6 - how much do you take? Reply with quote

RedSonja wrote:
So my question is, which omega-3 is the one we need, and do we really need it anyway?

One of my prior posts on this topic may be helpful for you.

http://www.thisisms.com/ftopicp-28551.html#28551

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How very interesting.

I have been sprinkling flax seed (linseed) on my muesli for decades, for the roughage. Now I know it has some of the right omega-3 in it.

I shall check out all the fish-oil caps in the drugshop and see if any have the "right ones". (DHA and EPA). But I don't think I could handle 15 a day. Wow. The neighbours would start to complain.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

varied healthy diet is important, but i've been on that for two years and if i didn't keep pushing to find out where my problem areas are, i wouldn't know that i had all these deficiencies. months after finding out that my magnesium levels affect my throat, when i eat plenty of magnesium laden foods now, still if i back off the supplements - not even stop just lower the dose - my throat goes haywire. and i have been eating meat since '06 too and at the end of '07 i was still zinc deficient. so i think it's quite important for people yes, to take diet seriously (i call mine "the biodiversity diet") but watch your levels and don't neglect nutritional supplements if they are needed!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it's quite important for people yes, to take diet seriously (i call mine "the biodiversity diet") but watch your levels and don't neglect nutritional supplements if they are needed![/
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Agree 100%!
My wife takes 50mg zinc daily and although someone could say her zinc levels will be sky high they are in the middle of the scale!
Imagine without the supplementation.
I thing only omega-3 are required for our generation, most foods contain omega-6 and olive oil (omega 9) is everywhere!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hear that DIM
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Omega 3 & 6 - how much do you take? Reply with quote

RedSonja wrote:
I have been sprinkling flax seed (linseed) on my muesli for decades, for the roughage. Now I know it has some of the right omega-3 in it.

I may have not been clear. In my prior post I wrote...
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For myself, I decided to take a TBSP of ground flax seed per day just to help round out my omega-3 intake. I chose the ground flax seed over the flax oil as there are nutrients and fiber which are not present in the oil.

The omega-3 fatty acids that are really useful are DHA and EPA. These primarily come from fish. ALA is from plant sources and a small percentage gets converted to DHA and EPA. ALA is good for people who cannot consume fish perhaps due to an allergy. In addition to the TB of ground flax seed that I mentioned above, I'm currently taking 5 grams/day of fish oil. This provides about 1.5 grams of DHA and EPA combined.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i checked the blend in the fridge and it has 1200mg gelcaps composed of flax borage and fish oils. it specifies amounts of the various types of O-3s involved, and says take 1-2 capsules per day, accompanying meals. i should check on the grams of each type, but it's all the way upstairs right now! Wink

why do you spell fridge with a g, but refrigerator without?
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