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Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 21 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject:
hi folks
anyone who can't get to the documents via mobile me should just PM me with your email address and I'll shoot it through to you.
I'll set it up on a better host when i have a chance...
fogdweller wrote:
BTW, Taxi, don't you
Aussie's watch the Supper Bowl? I realize it is a different kind of football and all ...
super bowl? isn't that something you put a big salad in?
some people here watch it but it's not a big deal at all. maybe a couple of pubs have it on the big screen. but nobody runs around afterwards tooting their car horns along Chapel street like they do after the World Cup or the AFL grand final - now that's real football!!
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: Analogy
When I was in college, we had a litle bathroom with a plywood floor that had press-on tiles. When one of the drains backed up, water would flow onto the floor, the tiles would curl and come off, and the plywood got moldy.
Zamboni proposes that we unstop the drains. Maks sense to me. So far we have been studying the glue on the tiles, the plywood, the type of mold, even the manufacturer of the tiles.
Lets unstop the drains first. Then we can get new tiles.
Joined: May 25, 2006 Posts: 81 Location: Near Wash DC
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: for all you tree lovers...
I wonder??
jackD
Angiology. 2006 Oct-Nov;57(5):569-76.
Rapid relief of signs/symptoms in chronic venous microangiopathy with pycnogenol: a prospective, controlled study.
Cesarone MR, Belcaro G, Rohdewald P, Pellegrini L, Ledda A, Vinciguerra G, Ricci A, Gizzi G, Ippolito E, Fano F, Dugall M, Acerbi G, Cacchio M, Di Renzo A, Hosoi M, Stuard S, Corsi M.
Irvine2 Vascular Lab and Physiology, Department of Biomedical Sciences, G 'Annunzio, Chieti-Pescara University, San Valentino Vascular Screening Project, Faculty of Motory Sciences, L'Aquila University, Italy.
Erratum in:
Angiology. 2008 Jun-Jul;59(3):385.
The aim of this study was to investigate the clinical efficacy of oral Pycnogenol (Horphag Research Ltd, UK) in patients with severe chronic venous insufficiency.
Patients with severe venous hypertension (chronic venous insufficiency, ankle swelling) and history of venous ulcerations were treated with Pycnogenol.
Patients received oral Pycnogenol (50 mg capsules, 3 times daily for a total of 150 mg daily) for 8 weeks.
A group of 21 patients was included in the treatment group and 18 equivalent patients were observed as controls (no treatment during the observation period). All 21 patients (age 53 years; range, 42-60 years; M:F=11:10) in the treatment group completed the 8-week study. Also the 18 controls completed the follow-up period. There were no drop-outs. The average ambulatory venous pressure was 59.3 (SD 7.2; range 50-68) with a refilling time shorter than 10 seconds (average 7.6; SD 3). There were no differences in ambulatory venous pressure or refilling time between the treatment and control patients. The duration of the disease-from the first signs/symptoms-was on average 5.7 years (SD 2.1). At 4 and 8 weeks, in all Pycnogenol-treated subjects, microcirculatory and clinical evaluations indicated a progressive decrease in skin flux, indicating an improvement in the level of microangiopathy; a significant decrease in capillary filtration; a significant improvement in the symptomatic score; and a reduction in edema. There were no visible effects in controls.
In conclusion, this study confirms the fast clinical efficacy of Pycnogenol in patients with chronic venous insufficiency and venous microangiopathy.
The study indicates the significant clinical role of Pycnogenol in the management, treatment and control of this common clinical problem. The treatment may be also useful to prevent ulcerations by controlling the level of venous microangiopathy.
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