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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Lovaza Reply with quote

This is interesting... prescription fish oil: http://www.lovaza.com/

What's more interesting is that they list trans fat as an inert ingredient.
Lovaza Prescribing Information wrote:
LOVAZA capsules also contain the following inactive ingredients: 4 mg α -tocopherol (in a carrier of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils including soybean oil), and gelatin, glycerol, and purified water (components of the capsule shell).


What were they thinking?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Lovaza Reply with quote

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What were they thinking?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my country Merck sells the product Omacor that contains 950mg omega-3 per caps:
www.omacor.com
In Germany many doctors presrcibe it for cardiovascular problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the concentrations of these two products? The one I take was the highest concentration I could find of DHA. I am wondering how it compares?

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=2080

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Concentrated omega-3 triglycerides-fish 1 g (1000 mg) containing omega-3 marine triglycerides 600mg as:

Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) 100 mg
Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) 500 mg

No added salt, yeast, gluten, wheat, milk derivatives, preservatives, artificial colours, flavours or sweeteners.


It says "no flavours" (artificial) but they have obviously added vanilla to the capsules, to cover the taste & smell of fish.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Lovaza & Omacor Reply with quote

CureOrBust wrote:
What are the concentrations of these two products? The one I take was the highest concentration I could find of DHA. I am wondering how it compares?


From the links...

Lovaza: 465/375 mg EPA/DHA - This capsule actually contains ethyl esters of DHA and EPA so those might have different physiological effects. The presence of trans fat sort of taints it though (kind of like having used coffee grounds in your 75% cocoa dark chocolate).

Omacor: 900 mg total omega-3 fats. "These are predominantly ethyl esters of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) 460 mg and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) 380 mg."

For comparisons sake, I'm currently taking 6 g/day of fish oil which provides 1800 mg of omega-3 fats that break down to 720 mg DHA and 1080 mg EPA. This is the same quantity of fish oil that was used in this study http://www.thisisms.com/ftopicp-29788.html#29788

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be a cynic, but I still think this is about glaxo smith kline trying to get a piece of the natural supplements market....they just made fish oil look more "sciency."

Jeff takes Carlson Super Omega 3- 1000mg which contains 300mg EPA, 200mg. DHA- he takes 2 a day. 280 soft gels for $13 on vitacost...means about $3 a month. Betcha the pharma's costs a bit more and the doctors and insurance companies get a piece of that pie.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you can't be cheap with omega-3, they should be free of heavy metals and highly concentrated otherwise you need more than 5-6 caps per day to achieve the 2 grams target, not to mention they may have high quantities of vitamin A and E.
I give 2 caps/day Solgars Omega-3 950 to my wife that are quite expensive although they are free of tocopherols (usually soya byproducts) and passed from x-ray for heavy metals.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIM wrote:
I believe you can't be cheap with omega-3, they should be free of heavy metals and highly concentrated otherwise you need more than 5-6 caps per day to achieve the 2 grams target, .


Agree, Dim! Carlson is a reputable, family-owned business in the states (Illinois). I know I'm getting good, fresh fish oil- This is from their products:
"THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully potent and free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCB's and 28 other contaminants."

I'm not going cheap on Jeff's supplements, just getting a good deal from a reputable company. My comment on cost was more about a DRUG company trying to get in on the health food market. It reminds me of fancy designer water sold in sciency bottles, so they can mark up the cost.

That said, how is your wife doing? I'm hoping she's stable and you have a handle on her relapses. It's always good to see your name pop up, Dmitris!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife - thanks god - is fine Cheer at least for now, who knows in the future?
She is going to have some blood tests this week for liver enzymes, vitamins etc we see if their levels are normal.
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