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Something I recently sent to my relatives and friends:



An addition to what I already sent (shown below):

Covid19 is a self-assembled nanoparticle, not really alive.

People who work in the nanotechnology industry may know how scary that is. The human race may be defeated by a mechanism Darwin warned us about. The fittest survive, and survival sometimes means accidentally finding a way to wipe out everything else.

For now, please recognize that what's killing people is mucus and gravity. It is assisted by lung power. Once infected mucus gets into your lungs it is very very hard, if not impossible to remove it, even with a good immune system. You can't as far as I know, put soap in your lungs. I have had my mouth washed out with soap so I know that is possible too. But very strong alcohol is my preference. To be frank, what is mostly likely to kill you is a sniffle that ends up in your lungs. That may not have happened yet, or maybe it has, if so, you can clean your mucus membranes, eyes and nose, with soap. Soap must be flushed immediately from your eyes with warm water, preferably running water, such as what comes from the shower.

While you are in the shower, you can get dilute, warm, soapy water as far as your mouth (and no farther) by snorting it there, with a very short snort. Don't snort too far, or you will reach your lungs, and you may die of Covid19. If you want to risk it, put a small amount of shampoo suds on your hand. Hold both hands together and fill them with warm water, which will now be a bit soapy. Snort it up your nose. Anything the soap touches will be virus-free. If you are allergic it will make you sneeze, so don't share this shower with others. If you use shampoo that is easy on the eyes you should not have any pain, even when you wash your eyes, if you flush them immediately with clean warm water. Many kinds of soap can be left in your nose and only flushed out next time you shower.

I hope nothing bad happens to you. Good luck.

Post-script about old people: Old people must not be left to die, as they have been in Spain and Italy. They are the only ones who remember the excesses and mistakes of the 20th century, such as WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and so on. Such as Ewan Cameron's CIA funded experiments on psychiatric patients. If we let them die we will lose a lot of guitarists and other musicians.

Chris

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I would add that mucus membranes, eyes and nose, can both be cleaned with dilute soapy water, as long as eyes are flushed immediately. This will kill the virus:
>> Opinion
>> Coronavirus outbreak
>> The science of soap – here’s how it kills the coronavirus
>> Pall Thordarson
>> Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin
>> Thu 12 Mar 2020 09.40 GMT
>> Last modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020 10.56 GMT
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... infectants
>>
>> ‘Soap dissolves the fat membrane of the virus – and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies.’ Photograph: Flashpop/Getty Images
>>
>> Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. Disinfectants, liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol are all useful at getting rid of them – but they are not quite as good as normal soap.
>> With Italy in lockdown, fear over coronavirus is natural but we must not be alarmist
>>
>> When I shared the information above using Twitter, it went viral. I think I have worked out why. Health authorities have been giving us two messages: once you have the virus there are no drugs that can kill it or help you get rid of it. But also, wash your hands to stop the virus spreading. This seems odd. You can’t, even for a million dollars, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills the virus.
>>
>> So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.
>>
>> The slightly longer story is that most viruses consist of three key building blocks: ribonucleic acid (RNA), proteins and lipids. A virus-infected cell makes lots of these building blocks, which then spontaneously self-assemble to form the virus. Critically, there are no strong covalent bonds holding these units together, which means you do not necessarily need harsh chemicals to split those units apart. When an infected cell dies, all these new viruses escape and go on to infect other cells. Some end up also in the airways of lungs.
>>
>> You can’t, for any price, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills it
>>
>> When you cough, or especially when you sneeze, tiny droplets from the airways can fly up to 10 metres. The larger ones are thought to be the main coronavirus carriers and they can go at least two metres.
>>
>> These tiny droplets end on surfaces and often dry out quickly. But the viruses remain active. Human skin is an ideal surface for a virus. It is “organic” and the proteins and fatty acids in the dead cells on the surface interact with the virus.
>>
>> When you touch, say, a steel surface with a virus particle on it, it will stick to your skin and hence get transferred on to your hands. If you then touch your face, especially your eyes, nostrils or mouth, you can get infected. And it turns out that most people touch their face once every two to five minutes.
>>
>> Washing the virus off with water alone might work. But water is not good at competing with the strong, glue-like interactions between the skin and the virus. Water isn’t enough.
>>
>> Soapy water is totally different. Soap contains fat-like substances known as amphiphiles, some of which are structurally very similar to the lipids in the virus membrane. The soap molecules “compete” with the lipids in the virus membrane. This is more or less how soap also removes normal dirt from the skin.
>>
>> The soap not only loosens the “glue” between the virus and the skin but also the Velcro-like interactions that hold the proteins, lipids and RNA in the virus together.
>>
>> Alcohol-based products, which pretty much includes all “disinfectant” products, contain a high-percentage alcohol solution (typically 60-80% ethanol) and kill viruses in a similar fashion. But soap is better because you only need a fairly small amount of soapy water, which, with rubbing, covers your entire hand easily. Whereas you need to literally soak the virus in ethanol for a brief moment, and wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough.
>>
>> So, soap is the best, but do please use alcohol-based sanitiser when soap is not handy or practical.
>>
>> Pall Thordarson is a professor of chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney
>>
>> Don't use alcohol on your eyes and nose.
>>

>> Chris
>>
>
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1eye wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:08 pmWhile you are in the shower, you can get dilute, warm, soapy water as far as your mouth (and no farther) by snorting it there, with a very short snort. Don't snort too far, or you will reach your lungs, and you may die of Covid19. If you want to risk it, put a small amount of shampoo suds on your hand. Hold both hands together and fill them with warm water, which will now be a bit soapy. Snort it up your nose. Anything the soap touches will be virus-free. If you are allergic it will make you sneeze, so don't share this shower with others. If you use shampoo that is easy on the eyes you should not have any pain, even when you wash your eyes, if you flush them immediately with clean warm water. Many kinds of soap can be left in your nose and only flushed out next time you shower.
The virus is inside your cells as well. Soap will do nothing for that. If you want to rinse out your sinuses, then use something like the NeilMed sinus rinse kit. The solution is isotonic and pH buffered. It will not irritate your sinuses.

https://www.amazon.com/NeilMed-100-Sinu ... 000RDZFZ0/
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101-year-old Italian man recovers from coronavirus, gets released from hospital (March 27)
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Turbulent Gas Clouds and Respiratory Pathogen Emissions
Potential Implications for Reducing Transmission of COVID-19 (March 26)

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Tracking covid-19 cases in the US. This page is updated daily.

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Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)
Situation Report – 68
28 March 2020

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 384bc74c_2

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• No new countries/territories/areas reported cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours.
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Fauci Estimates That 100,000 To 200,000 Americans Could Die From The Coronavirus

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The nation's leading expert on infectious diseases and member of the White House's coronavirus task force says the pandemic could kill 100,000 to 200,000 Americans and infect millions.

Dr. Anthony Fauci said based on modeling of the current pace of the coronavirus' spread in the U.S., "between 100,000 and 200,000" people may die from COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

Fauci's comments on CNN's State of the Union underscore just how far away the U.S. is from the peak of the outbreak based on predictions from top federal officials. As of early Sunday afternoon, there were 125,000 cases in the U.S. and nearly 2,200 deaths, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Public health experts say that because of undocumented chains of transmission in many parts of the country, the number of new coronavirus cases in the U.S. is set to keep surging as more and more test results become known.

Fauci said the 100,000-to-200,000 death figure is a middle-of-the-road estimate, much lower than worse-case-scenario predictions.

He said preparing for 1 million to 2 million Americans to die from the coronavirus is "almost certainly off the chart," adding: "Now it's not impossible, but very, very unlikely."

However, Fauci cautioned people not to put too much emphasis on predictions, noting that "it's such a moving target that you could so easily be wrong and mislead people."

What we do know, he says, is that "we've got a serious problem in New York, we've got a serious problem in New Orleans and we're going to have serious problems in other areas."

Fauci's coronavirus fatality estimate comes as the White House considers ways to reopen the economy, including easing social distancing guidelines that officials have set forth to curb the spread of the fast-moving virus.

One in three Americans is now being asked to stay indoors as new cases soar, especially in New York, which accounts for nearly half of the country's cases.

When asked if it is the right time to begin relaxing some of the social distancing measures, Fauci said not until the curve of new infections starts flattening out.

He refused to guess when exactly that may occur.

"The virus itself determines that timetable," Fauci said.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the seasonal flu has killed between 12,000 and 61,000 people a year since 2010. The coronavirus death rate is far greater than the flu's. For the elderly population, the coronavirus has been found to be six times as deadly.

There is currently no vaccine for the coronavirus. Experts say developing a vaccine for the virus could take at least a year.
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FDA clears a new covid19 test that can yield positive results in 5 minutes and negative results in 13 minutes.

https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-03-27 ... ve-Minutes

ABBOTT PARK, Ill., March 27, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Abbott (NYSE: ABT) announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the fastest available molecular point-of-care test for the detection of novel coronavirus (COVID-19), delivering positive results in as little as five minutes and negative results in 13 minutes. The test will run on the company's ID NOW™ platform, providing rapid results in a wide range of healthcare settings such as physicians' offices, urgent care clinics and hospital emergency departments.

The ID NOW platform is small, lightweight (6.6 pounds) and portable (the size of a small toaster), and uses molecular technology, which is valued by clinicians and the scientific community for its high degree of accuracy. ID NOW is already the most widely available molecular point-of-care testing platform in the U.S. today.

"The COVID-19 pandemic will be fought on multiple fronts, and a portable molecular test that offers results in minutes adds to the broad range of diagnostic solutions needed to combat this virus," said Robert B. Ford, president and chief operating officer, Abbott. "With rapid testing on ID NOW, healthcare providers can perform molecular point-of-care testing outside the traditional four walls of a hospital in outbreak hotspots."

Abbott will be making ID NOW COVID-19 tests available next week to healthcare providers in urgent care settings in the U.S., where the majority of ID NOW instruments are in use today. The company is working with the Administration to deploy tests to areas where they can have the greatest impact.

The arrival of the Abbott ID NOW COVID-19 test comes a week after the company launched its Abbott m2000™ RealTime SARS-CoV-2 EUA test, which runs on the m2000™ RealTime System located in hospital and reference labs around the world. Between the two platforms, Abbott expects to produce about 5 million tests per month.
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This works for the common cold, which is also a coronavirus. As with a cold, the sooner after symptoms start, the better.

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Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) Pandemic
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... virus-2019

Water, sanitation, hygiene, and waste management for the COVID-19 virus
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19 March 2020

https://www.who.int/publications-detail ... r-covid-19


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Live from WHO Headquarters - coronavirus - COVID-19 daily press briefing 30 March 2020

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and as of March 31:
WHO and Rakuten Viber fight COVID-19 misinformation with interactive chatbot
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The World Health Organization’s critical challenge: healing itself (2016)
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Criticism of response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic
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Time Sensitive: Webinar - MS Management During COVID-19

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Visit the link below to register for tomorrow's webinar.

Webinar: Multiple Sclerosis Management During COVID-19 (March 31)
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"...The presentation, which will take place Thursday, April 2nd at 6:00 PM ET, will be given by Mitzi Joi Williams, MD, assistant professor of medicine and clinical neurologist at Morehouse School of Medicine, and founder of Joi Life Wellness Clinic. Williams will provide an overview of the latest guidelines, review recently reported cases from neurologists from around the world, and address concerns about adapting patient care..."
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Snopes: Has Dr. Zelenko Successfully Treated 669 Coronavirus Patients?

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Has Dr. Zelenko Successfully Treated 669 Coronavirus Patients?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelen ... -patients/

"A blog post asserting that people responded well to an experimental COVID-19 treatment is in no way an evidence-based contribution to science.

Unproven"

i will be pleased if just 50mg of elemental zinc per day (ie 220 mg zinc sulfate) can be verified as a meaningful contribution to covid-19 treatment. i'm taking more zinc than that as a status quo right now anyway, as well as adhering to public health recommendations and restrictions. not planning to need antimalarial antivirals like hydroxychloroquine, or antibiotics like azithromycin to combat secondary bacterial infection either. we shall see whether researchers will conduct a trial of this person's proposed approach.
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jimmylegs wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:01 pm Has Dr. Zelenko Successfully Treated 669 Coronavirus Patients?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zelen ... -patients/

"A blog post asserting that people responded well to an experimental COVID-19 treatment is in no way an evidence-based contribution to science.

Unproven"

i will be pleased if just 50mg of elemental zinc per day (ie 220 mg zinc sulfate) can be verified as a meaningful contribution to covid-19 treatment. i'm taking more zinc than that as a status quo right now anyway, as well as adhering to public health recommendations and restrictions. not planning to need antimalarial antivirals like hydroxychloroquine, or antibiotics like azithromycin to combat secondary bacterial infection either. we shall see whether researchers decide to conduct a legitimate trial of this person's proposed approach.
The treatment is based on the research of Dr Didier Raoult of Marseille. Look him up. If I am faced with reanimation in the hospital (3 to 6 weeks) which I am unlikely to survive (age, fragile health) I would gladly undergo this 5 day treatment. We are talking likely death here.
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