PPMS & SPMS are qualitatively indistinguishable

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PPMS & SPMS are qualitatively indistinguishable

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Diagnosis of Progressive Multiple Sclerosis From the Imaging Perspective: A Review
JAMA Neurol. 2020 Dec 14.

Importance: Although magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) is useful for monitoring disease dissemination in space and over time and excluding multiple sclerosis (MS) mimics, there has been less application of MRI to progressive MS, including diagnosing primary progressive (PP) MS and identifying patients with relapsing-remitting (RR) MS who are at risk of developing secondary progressive (SP) MS. This review addresses clinical application of MRI for both diagnosis and prognosis of progressive MS.

Observations: Although nonspecific, some spinal cord imaging features (diffuse abnormalities and lesions involving gray matter [GM] and ≥2 white matter columns) are typical of PPMS. In patients with PPMS and those with relapse-onset MS, location of lesions in critical central nervous system regions (spinal cord, infratentorial regions, and GM) and MRI-detected high inflammatory activity in the first years after diagnosis are risk factors for long-term disability and future progressive disease course. These measures are evaluable in clinical practice. In patients with established MS, GM involvement and neurodegeneration are associated with accelerated clinical worsening. Subpial demyelination and slowly expanding lesions are novel indicators of progressive MS.

Conclusions and relevance: Diagnosis of PPMS is more challenging than diagnosis of RRMS. No qualitative clinical, immunological, histopathological, or neuroimaging features differentiate PPMS and SPMS; both are characterized by imaging findings reflecting neurodegeneration and are also impacted by aging and comorbidities. Unmet diagnostic needs include identification of MRI markers capable of distinguishing PPMS from RRMS and predicting the evolution of RRMS to SPMS. Integration of multiple parameters will likely be essential to achieve these aims.
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Re: PPMS & SPMS are qualitatively indistinguishable

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I'm not sure what they mean by "qualitatively indistinguishable". The simple way to tell is this: If you had relapses and remissions in the past but no longer have them and you have a continuous progression of disability then you probably have secondary progressive. If you never had relapses or remissions but have continuous progression of disability then you have primary progressive.
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David1949 wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:56 pmI'm not sure what they mean by "qualitatively indistinguishable."
Both progressive phases are indistinguishable by clinical analyses. In effect, there's no test that a neurologist could use to tell a PPMS patient from a SPMS patient if they were unaware of the patients' disease histories.
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NHE wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:12 pm Both progressive phases are indistinguishable by clinical analyses. In effect, there's no test that a neurologist could use to tell a PPMS patient from a SPMS patient if they were unaware of the patients' disease histories.
True, but the fact is that both are indistinguishable by clinical analyses from healthy patients. There is still a lot to understand.
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