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Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:11 am
by Meowbunnymoo
My boyfriend isn't feeling so well, but I've suspected drug abuse.

Can MS look like withdrawal from opiates, or any other drug?

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:04 am
by NHE
Meowbunnymoo wrote:My boyfriend isn't feeling so well, but I've suspected drug abuse.

Can MS look like withdrawal from opiates, or any other drug?
Fatigue is pretty common in MS. It can cause people to sleep more than normal. What behavior is you boyfriend exhibiting?

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:59 am
by Meowbunnymoo
Fast speech, or mumbled/slurred. Sleeping mostly during the day, and up at night. Running out at weird times of the day, sometimes just to get gas. Carries a backpack with him all day, even while at home. Super high/confidence, then super low. Irritability.

Most current behavior looks like a flu:Flushed/shakey/nausea/chills/dark eyes/weight loss/hardly eating/dizzy, unusual coordination issues/ taking a lot of kratom/ taking a lot of imodium/ taking benzos.

I don't know. Everything seems a mess right now.

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:06 am
by NHE
Meowbunnymoo wrote:Fast speech, or mumbled/slurred. Sleeping mostly during the day, and up at night. Running out at weird times of the day, sometimes just to get gas. Carries a backpack with him all day, even while at home. Super high/confidence, then super low. Irritability.

Most current behavior looks like a flu:Flushed/shakey/nausea/chills/dark eyes/weight loss/hardly eating/dizzy, unusual coordination issues/ taking a lot of kratom/ taking a lot of imodium/ taking benzos.

I don't know. Everything seems a mess right now.
I think this goes beyond MS. For example, I was unfamiliar with kratom, but found the following...

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/kratom
  • "An evergreen tree, Mitragyna speciosa, native to Thailand. The leaves are boiled to release an illicit and intoxicating sedative and stimulant."
Maybe he's using his MS as excuse to give up. In any case, it sounds like he needs help.

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:37 am
by Meowbunnymoo
He claims kratom helps him.

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:09 pm
by NHE
Meowbunnymoo wrote:He claims kratom helps him.
Read this...

Kratom Side Effects, Signs, and Symptoms
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/krat ... e-effects/

Kratom Addiction
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/kratom-addiction/

Also, "Benzos" is a cute name for benzodiazepine drugs. These are tranquilizers such as valium. That should be of concern as well.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/add ... ne-abuse#1

Re: Can MS look like withdrawal?

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:10 am
by ArthurJ
Meowbunnymoo wrote:My boyfriend isn't feeling so well, but I've suspected drug abuse.

Can MS look like withdrawal from opiates, or any other drug?
From the info posted, it looks like kratom is the opiate. Your boyfriend likely needs to go to a residential drug addiction treatment center.