Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:20 pm
excuse me folks.
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CCSVIhusband wrote:Funny, that post I mentioned about Lyon making in the Site Support forum mysteriously disappeared after I mentioned it ... It'd been there for 2 weeks before tonight. (yet had a timely removal less than 15 minutes after I tried to bring it to everyones attention).
VERY strange ... do you people get what I'm getting at here?
They'll question everything you say ... but see the responses you get when you question anything they say?
MAYBE I'll just join the "rah-rah" over on the Facebook page ... except I'll actually concede that before my wife's liberation ... I was curious and wondered if CCSVI was true too ... now I know it IS.
So I'll be attacked for telling YOU all it is. and believe me I'm fine with it, so you all can continue your discussions ... and see who the people opposing discussion and ideas really are.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 4:44 pm [JL note: my emphasis added]
Just a friendly reminder: We love the debating that's been going on lately because it forces people to think critically and challenge their own beliefs.
However, there can be too much of a good thing. If you disagree with someone, please succintly state why and let it go at that. Point, counterpoint, counter-counter point, etc. is not useful-- the reality is that after the first disagreement, you will rarely convince another of something they feel strongly about unless you have shocking new information to share. The drawn-out debates also turn people off from reading the messages in the first place. If you really have to get something off your chest, please send that person a Private Message-- there is no need to have a long argument in public .
For the most part, everything on the board so far is just fine, but I want to keep it that way. We are all in this fight together; Let's focus all of our energies on trying to beat MS into submission, not each other.
If you disagree with what I said (how ironic!), please drop me a private message. However, I have received enough comments from members that are in support of the above to feel confident about what I just posted.
Peace, love, etc.
-Arron
You're all most/almost welcome, I am nearly 90.9999999 percent, with first or second class evidence, and placebo remote-controlled, random, third-eye blinded trials, completely and unprovably certain.Thanks for insightful info.
So, to recap, ANY negative developments that will affect the sales of these drugs will substantially hurt the company. Is a surgical solution a negative development? You be the judge.We are substantially dependent on revenues from our three principal products.
Our current and future revenues depend upon continued sales of our three principal products, AVONEX, RITUXAN and TYSABRI, which represented substantially all of our total revenues during 2009 and the first quarter of 2010. Although we have developed and continue to develop additional products for commercial introduction, we expect to be substantially dependent on sales from these three products for many years. Any negative developments relating to any of these products, such as safety or efficacy issues, the introduction or greater acceptance of competing products, including biosimilars, or adverse regulatory or legislative developments may reduce our revenues and adversely affect our results of operations.
[/quote]The introduction of more efficacious, safer, cheaper, or more convenient alternatives to our products could reduce our revenues and the value of our product development efforts.
[/quote]BooBear wrote:I thought I would post these snippets from Biogen's own 10-K, filed in April of this year. Anyone who reads these and then believes that biopharmaceutical companies focused on this particular patient community are not nervous about CCSVI is delusional, IMO.
So, to recap, ANY negative developments that will affect the sales of these drugs will substantially hurt the company. Is a surgical solution a negative development? You be the judge.We are substantially dependent on revenues from our three principal products.
Our current and future revenues depend upon continued sales of our three principal products, AVONEX, RITUXAN and TYSABRI, which represented substantially all of our total revenues during 2009 and the first quarter of 2010. Although we have developed and continue to develop additional products for commercial introduction, we expect to be substantially dependent on sales from these three products for many years. Any negative developments relating to any of these products, such as safety or efficacy issues, the introduction or greater acceptance of competing products, including biosimilars, or adverse regulatory or legislative developments may reduce our revenues and adversely affect our results of operations.
Because here is what Biogen thinks:
The introduction of more efficacious, safer, cheaper, or more convenient alternatives to our products could reduce our revenues and the value of our product development efforts.
Where did that post you deleted from the site support go Lyon?Lyon wrote:I stand corrected. I guess engrossing yourself in a conspiracy theory is in your best interest.BooBear wrote: Anyone who reads these and then believes that biopharmaceutical companies focused on this particular patient community are not nervous about CCSVI is delusional, IMO.