CCSVI and CCVBP

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Upriightdoc, sorry to hijack your board


Sunday, 3 April 2011
fibromyalgia and trigeminal neuralgia both ms symptoms
The Atlas Subluxation Complex:


Introduction
Millions of people are walking around right now with unnecessary pain. People suffering from a wide range of conditions including headaches, fibromyalgia, migraines, trigeminal neuralgia, TMJ, arthritis, herniated disks, back pain and more. These "structural" problems are contributing to other problems, such as high blood pressure, difficulty sleeping, depression and digestive problems. These seemingly unrelated problems increase our dependency on drugs while diminishing our activity and lives becomes something to endure and get through. This affects our interaction with family and friends isolating us, so that we become alone in our pain.

Postural Distortion
Most of these people they have a short leg, high hip, contracted muscles, and a sometimes subtle twist in their spine. In the 1940’s, a tiny group of chiropractors began to realize that these seemingly unrelated conditions were all part of a singular health complex. They realized that the cause of this complex was a small twist in the upper neck.
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The Atlas
Atlas in Greek Mythology is the god who holds the globe on his shoulders. The atlas in our bodies is a tiny, two-to-four-ounce bone that holds the entire weight of the head on it shoulders. The head weighs about the same as a bowling ball, between 8 to 10 pounds. The atlas is the most movable bone in the entire spine, it is also the most vulnerable to injury. An accident or injury can tear loose the connective tissues holding the bones of the neck in place. The atlas bone can then become wedged out of position. This misalignment can affect us in three ways.

Spinal Cord Irritation And Disruption:
The brain tells all of the body parts what to do through signals from the brain to the brainstem, to the spinal cord, out through the nerves and into the body. The nerves go to every muscle and organ. When the atlas shifts, twists or tilts out of position it can irritate the spinal cord, causing nerves in the spinal cord to fire. It is like when an army wants to block a radio transmission from their opponent. They will broadcast static on the same frequency. Listeners can hear that someone is speakingskulls573684small.<spanclass= but can’t make out the words. When the atlas shifts out of place we are likewise able to function, but a clear signal can’t get through. This situation can stress our digestion, breathing, blood pressure, as well as muscles. A misaligned atlas will affect nerve signal to 15 sets of postural muscles, muscles that help us stay upright. These muscles will go weak and only function at 30%, causing us to twist and slouch. When a bunch of muscles doesn’t function as it should, the muscles that are doing their job have to work harder to compensate, which makes them spasm and causes us to tire easily.
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Impediment of Blood Flow
The second way that the misalignment will affect us is by diminishing blood flow to or from the brain. Decreased blood flow can cause headaches, as well as fogginess and grouchiness. We don’t think as clearly.

Dural Torsion
The third way: Surrounding our brain, brainstem and spinal cord is a sack of fluid. Our brain is floating in this sack for protection. The sack part is very tough. It attaches to the different bones in the skull, our sacrum (tail bone), and the first bone in our neck. When the atlas twists out of alignment, it will twist this sack. If I took a dish towel and grabbed both ends, then started to twist the towel and kept twisting, you would notice that the two ends would begin to be forced together. The same thing happens in our backs. Our head and tailbone get forced together, jamming the discs in the back and the joints in the neck and back. This compression causes wear and tear that leads to degeneration of the bones and wear on the discs. The pressure can cause an irritation so that when we walk long distances on hard surfaces (such as the mall or Sam’s club), we get exhausted, or need to hold onto a cart.
Because the dural sack attaches to the sacrum and tailbone, it will twist the sacrum, causing the hips to rotate and a leg to go short. This can lead to hip, knee and feet problems. This puts extra pressure on the skull, the torsion in the dura will lock the skull bones down creating headaches and TMJ problems.




Impact over time
With time this will increase the wear and tear on our bodies which will accelerate the aging in our body and cause even worse problems in the coming years.
Here is what Happens


A Story
Lets suppose that the front end of your car is out of alignment. You notice that something is wrong with your car and you decide to put some engine cleaner to make it run better. It still pulls to the side. You go to the mechanic and ask for a tune up. Still, your car is pulling to the side when you drive. With time you notice that the tires are wearing out, you get a flat, and decide that you need to replace the tires even though you should have another 20k thousand miles left. Finally, you get mad and have your mechanic overhaul the engine . . . you get the idea, spending a little money in the beginning to address the problem would have saved money in the long run. Also, there is a difference with just getting by, and working well.
With time the misalignment of the front end can cause a lot of damage. It greatly increases the forces that your car need to overcome. It is tiring to keep the hand on the wheel to keep from running into the next lane, and this is with power steering to increase your leverage.
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sunnee and others here,

sunnee, the above analogy that you posted is so well put that with no prestigeous diploma in my hand and many others in the same boat here at this site but what we do have is "good old common sence" WE GET IT!! Then the iceing on the cake is having dr. flanagan and his true and very large pool of knowledge that i'd put up against the so called specialist etc.that is sooo accepted by mainstream med. Given a "fair debate" and the "proof is in the pudding" so to speak dr. flanagan and the other chiro.'s getting involved in the research--they would run circles around them all.

hopefully, soon, the neurosurgeons that in cases like mine where they are needed, and other types of med. dr.'s they will all come out of what one day, "will be considered the dark ages" of medicine and see the light. as far as i'm concerned "dr. flanagan's" books and knowledge should be taught first and right upfront of just about every other medical teaching. just about everything in the way of a persons health and well being is connected to your spinal condition and blood flow and csf flow. how can anything else be up to snuff if that's out of wack? if they would get these things corrected as early as possible "when possible of course" then just maybe other medical needs administered would work more successfully. "or better yet, there may not be as many things go wrong in the first place." it may not be the total magic bullet for everything but at least it would give a person the best shot at healing.

i've been trying for yrs. to get neuro's and dr.'s to look at me and listen to me as an individual human being and what my body was telling me and to get them to consider and do something. but i always got the same attitude and look. I HATE THAT LOOK AND ATTITUDE!! now i'm on a crusade "again" to find a good neurosurgeon or orthopedic surgeon that will step up-get out of the dark ages and hopefully help me. will it, is the damage too much after yrs. of wear and tear, i'll not know unless i try.--but at least dr. flanagan's book and his explanations jives with what i've not been able to voice in such an educated way. "but, it boils down to "common sence".

the early ones diagnosed that have found this site don't realize how lucky they are. with anything, the earlier the better. i'll continue to keep my head on straight and whatever i can until i i find the best of the best surgeon that thinks for himself and acknowledges that this branding of symptoms named ms just may not be the cause of all my symptoms and acknowledges the fact that i have correctable spinal issues that should be addressed. years ago!!!

and, i'll continue to follow dr. flanagan's suggestions. HE IS THE MAN! maybe when he gets on the dr. oz show things will move faster. it will take the "push" of everyone to get chiropractics up front and personal with what is referred to as mainstream med. bottom line, drugs and big money took over healing "if you want to call it that" and hoalistic approaches and common sence got buried under a pile of politics and cash.
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Blossom,

Cant take credit for writing it i'm affraid, it was these guys.

http://www.spinalalignment.com/wp-conte ... skulls.gif

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Uprightdoc,


Its funny my broth-in-law is Irish, my kids Grandad lives in San Antonio, an Aunt in Houston, An Uncle in Oklahoma, another uncle in San Antonio.

Small world eh!

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Hi Poet,
It has been awhile since I looke at your films but I know you have problems in the spine from stem to stern. Blossom has stenosis from C3-C7 due to spondylosis. The worst area is C4/5 and C5/6 which have large osteophytes (bone spurs) she has been complaining about for years because she can feel the impingement when she tips her head forward. The stenosis is compressing the vertebral veins. Another TiMS member I have consulted with has advanced severe spondylosis and stenosis from C3 through the upper thoracics including a cervical compression fracture. While the venous blood can find other routes around the obstruction, the stenosis affects flow and cause congestions and venous hypertension. A study at Rutgers University suggested that venous hypertension in probably one of the primary causes of decreased blood flow to the cord (ischemia).
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Sunnee,
Three of my brothers and two of my sisters are also Irish.
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Morning all, Dr. can you give a link to the study at Rutgers please, it will go well on my site CCSVI in NZ;
https://www.facebook.com/pages/CCSVI-in ... 1636357984
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Uprightdoc,

you got a big family that real nice.

my ex mother-in-law was Irish, she married an American Air force pilot thats why they live over there, my husband remained in England. one of his brothers is a Cop and the other coaches a youths American football team.

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Good afternoon Nigel,
For some reason I have had difficulty finding the paper these days but I keep a hard copy in my desk drawer. The paper is called Vascular and Cerebrospinal Supply of the Spinal Cord, by Wise Yound PhD, MD. The latest edition I have is from 2002. Dr. Young is and expert on spinal cord injuries and a prolific author and lecturer. You might find the paper by rummaging through the following link to Care Cure Community.
http://sci.rutgers.edu/index.php?page=articles
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Thanks Dr. found it first hit;
http://sci.rutgers.edu/index.php?page=v ... hemia.html
Spinal cord ischemia can result from many causes. Obstruction of arterial blood supply to the spinal cord is the most commonly cited cause of spinal cord ischemia. Ischemic myelopathy of the spinal cord is frequently misdiagnosed as transverse myelitis. Also, many cases of spinal cord ischemia are attributed to other causes. For example, arteriovenous malformations cause ischemia. Compression of the spinal cord also can cause ischemia. Perhaps the most under appreciated cause of spinal cord ischemia is venous obstruction or congestion. Although the venous system is redundant, it is also a low pressure system that is susceptible to even mild compression and elevated venous pressures.

Spinal cord injury due to arterial, venous, and cerebrospinal fluid obstruction is far more common than we think. It is likely that they contribute significantly to the severity of spinal cord injury and failure of recovery in many causes of traumatic spinal cord injury where failure to decompress the injury site for days or weeks, poor maintenance of perfusion pressure, increased central venous pressure, and development of enlarging spinal cysts may contribute to lack of recovery or loss of function in chronic spinal cord injury
Great article,
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Terrific Nigel. There are many little pearls found in the paper but you summarized it perfectly. My next book goes into the cord and TM.
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Soo, looking forward to reading it!
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Uprightdoc,

You mentioned strokes a while back, At present I am receiving treatment from a Neuro Physiotherapist, and they deal with stroke patients, I am having some good results, admittedly Ive been on a mattress on the floor for weeks, and slept a lot but I think my body has been healing, cant straighten my legs yet but all in good time eh, its been tough work but its definitely worth it. I think that medics underestimate the healing capabilities of the human body, its an incredible piece of kit.

And the Chinese way of mind body and spirit is so right, and its not just about blood flow, spinal fluid flow, digestion flow, its also about meridians flow too.

Just thought I'd share

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Was given this on FB,

Enjoy
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Dr Flanagan

I have just received your book "The Downside of Upright Posture". It is really fascinating.

By the way, a couple of years ago I found the works of a russian researcher Y. Moskalenko. Today I stumbled upon an old link from my bookmarks, to one of his articles that you might find interesting:

http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/pdf/Mo ... ograph.pdf

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