It's official, PP it is

A forum to discuss Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency and its relationship to Multiple Sclerosis.
Post Reply
User avatar
Johnnymac
Family Elder
Posts: 213
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:00 pm

It's official, PP it is

Post by Johnnymac »

The neuro today confirmed what we've thought for a while now, Court has Primary Progressive MS, not RR. 5 years of no new lesions, gradual worsening of symptoms and no periods of remission.

This may be why she didn't see any long term benefit from CCSVI treatment, as it seems the RR group are the ones who really see lasting positive results from opening up the veins. Wanted to let those who have followed our journey know the news as it does shine new light on her not seeing the great benefits from ballooning that we had hoped for.
Cece
Family Elder
Posts: 9335
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:00 pm
Contact:

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by Cece »

The two of you are a beautiful couple. I am sorry to hear it's primary progressive.
User avatar
EJC
Family Elder
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:00 pm
Location: Surrey, UK
Contact:

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by EJC »

It's not news you wanted to hear, you have our thoughts.
User avatar
Rosegirl
Family Elder
Posts: 261
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:00 pm
Contact:

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by Rosegirl »

Was the neurologist supportive of the CCSVI theory?

Since there was benefit after treatment that has disappeared, are you sure that the problem isn't restenosis? Many patients require additional treatment.

Also, if there was improvement earlier, perhaps as the IRs get better at finding problems, there is still lots of room for improvement.
User avatar
Johnnymac
Family Elder
Posts: 213
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:00 pm

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by Johnnymac »

She was treated by Dr S, I dont think we could have had a better IR. We haven't given up on CCSVI, just waiting for more of the studies to get done and for good local IRs in Texas to get on board. Neuro wasn't dismissive, just not convinced anything definitive has been determined yet in regards to the relationship of CCSVI and MS.
Cece
Family Elder
Posts: 9335
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:00 pm
Contact:

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by Cece »

Depending on when she saw him, was he checking renal veins? Or did he say if she had anything untreatable? Hypoplastic ascending lumbars might be more common in PPMS, according to Zamboni's findings. Restenosis is also common, although some may have higher rates of restenosis than others depending on techniques. Dr. S is awesome, I saw him too, and I've had lasting results that still surprise me, but I had partial restenosis in one of my jugulars that benefited from a second procedure. I like to see people get tested for restenosis, just so they know, but understand if it's not easy/possible/local/covered. (And wouldn't it be nice if those roadblocks weren't there!)

It's also hard for me to get over Wheelchair Kamikaze's thoughts on the possibility of a tertiary immune system in the brain itself in progressive patients. It happens in other diseases where there is constant inflammation in an organ. If this proves true, then it leads to new pharmaceutical options. ( http://www.wheelchairkamikaze.com/2011/ ... nning.html )
User avatar
Donnchadh
Family Elder
Posts: 526
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:00 pm

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by Donnchadh »

Johnnymac wrote:The neuro today confirmed what we've thought for a while now, Court has Primary Progressive MS, not RR. 5 years of no new lesions, gradual worsening of symptoms and no periods of remission.

This may be why she didn't see any long term benefit from CCSVI treatment, as it seems the RR group are the ones who really see lasting positive results from opening up the veins. Wanted to let those who have followed our journey know the news as it does shine new light on her not seeing the great benefits from ballooning that we had hoped for.
Just curious, is there any history of trauma to the head or neck?

Donnchadh
Kitty says, "Take that, you stenosis!"

Got MS?.....Get Liberated!
User avatar
cheerleader
Family Elder
Posts: 5361
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:00 pm
Location: southern California

Re: It's official, PP it is

Post by cheerleader »

Johnny---
I'm so, so sorry. Sending love and healing thoughts to you and Court-
Joan
Husband dx RRMS 3/07
dx dual jugular vein stenosis (CCSVI) 4/09
http://ccsviinms.blogspot.com
Post Reply

Return to “Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency (CCSVI)”