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it's great to hear of your improvements!
In the thread he mostly responds in, he left this answer remain unchanged:
http://www.thisisms.com/forum/chronic-c ... ml#p193079
It's not a case of finding a dentist that can help as it isn't as straightforward as that. As CureOrBust suggests, he developed this treatment himself but it isn't something new.
Dr Amir has spent a large proportion of the last 20 years training and understand not only the dental side of what he does, but how this interacts with the skeleton.
"Atlasbalance" is one part of his treatment that is a German based specialty. That is the process of checking and correcting the position of the vertebrae.
Think of it this way. Modern medicine has got so bogged down in minutia, splitting up each part of the anatomy into to individual components and individual specialties that the way many parts of the body interact has got lost or missed.
Dr Amir looks at a bigger picture and has developed a treatment for the jaw/teeth that is providing relief of a lot of symptoms traditionally associated with MS.
This doesn't mean his treatment can't be replicated, but it would be difficult to find a dentist who will have the rounded understanding of what is actually being done.
In fact Amir spends a great deal of time treating patients that have been mistreated by other dentists trying to replicate what he does.
Let's say a build up of CSF actually compresses or inhibits venous blood circulation from the brain leading to a blood reflux and Multiple Sclerosis brain damage. Dr. Zamboni's central hypothesis remains valid, it is the blood reflux which injures the brain. But the CAUSE of the reflux may NOT be IN the veins themselves. Physical manipulation of the cranium and vertebrae may be neccessary to release the CSF pressure. (Dental problems fit into this schema.)
The second quote about vertebral veins was posted by Cece on October 15, 2012. The inside vein walls are muscular (therefore subject to muscle tension stress ?) and the exterior vertebral veins are controlled by valves. Again this implies that stress pure and simple could "squeeze" the interior vertebral vein blood back into the brain.
The Italian MS Society recently declared the CCSVI link to MS theory to be invalid after a 2 year "controlled" study which was administered by a Neurologist.. Their only diagnostic tool was a Doppler Sonogram and 89% of positive results from local clinics were deemed invalid. Dr. Zamboni pulled out of the study early on, objecting to the protocols which he deemed would bias the outcome. It is obvious that Professor Zamboni's protocols should be respected in the study of a theory he has developed and demonstrated. However, in addition to the study of a vein abnormality (stenosis or valve problem), I believe one needs to consider the role of muscle tension caused by toxic stress as well as cerebrospinal fluid compression. This complicates the issue and makes a simplistic "let's see if the vein is blocked in MS?" study inconclusive since one can have a blood reflux without an actual physically observable pathology.
I have now concluded there are 5 main forms of MS. 1) Congenital 2) Skeletal Trauma ( which impedes free flow of cerebrospinal fluid - this includes th Atlas treatment and can be either a congenital defect or trauma 3) Developmental 4) Toxic 5) Aging.
See my site MS Cure Enigmas.net for possible self help ideas.
First Quote: Posted by Fernando on ThisIsMs.com Sept 13, 2009
Investigating Cerebral Circulation as the Physiological Underpinning of Consciousness
A collaboration between the Beckley Foundation and the Sechenov Institute of Evolutionary Physiology and
Biochemistry,St. Petersburg, led by Prof. Yuri Moskalenko, Amanda Feilding and Peter Halvorson
One of the projects we are most excited
about at the Beckley Foundation is our collaboration with Prof. Yuri Moskalenko
investigating cranial compliance. Cranial compliance is a measure of the
functioning of the cranial system as a whole: the skull, the brain tissue, and
all the liquids that flow through and around this complex system. Cranial
compliance is determined by the interaction of all these components, and the
results of our investigation so far have shown that a better understanding of
these interactions is of crucial importance for healthier brains and improved
cognitive functioning throughout the whole of one's life.
System and Cranial Compliance
The circulation of blood in the brain
differs from that of the other organs because the brain is encased within a
nearly-rigid container, the cranium. The situation is further complicated by a
second fluid system in the brain, the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) system, which
circulates in its own compartments and interacts with the blood system. These
systems are interdependent such that changes in the volume, pressure and
movements of one system should lead to concomitant changes in the other,
consistent with the laws of fluid dynamics. The study of brain circulation has
therefore evolved into the study of the bio-mechanical principles of how fluids
move through soft tubes inside a closed container under pressure. There are
many different configurations by which the two fluid volumes interact, and
learning more about these reveals vital new information about brain circulation
and its implications for health.
The concept of brain circulation from
this systemic point of view, as a complex biological system, has been given the
name cranial compliance or CC. Understanding CC is relevant to medical
professionals as well as for each and every one of us. Changes in the
elasticity of this complex system over the life span have been shown to have a
direct impact on cerebral health and cognitive functioning, as our most
recently completed research clearly demonstrates. To know and to manage cranial
compliance is as important for the good health of the brain as knowing and
managing one's blood pressure is for the heart. The good news is that our
research indicates that early, proactive management of cranial compliance may
counteract the diminution in brain functions considered to be an inevitable
part of normal ageing.
The importance of good cerebral circulation and
our intuitive understanding of this is highlighted by the long history we
humans have of devising practices that improve our cerebral circulation. The
benefits of yogic breathing exercises to cranial compliance, for example,
indicate an appreciation that inspiration and expiration (i.e. respiratory
pressure changes) are one of the driving forces of brain circulation. Indeed,
the respiratory system can be considered as a third fluid system in terms of
the effects it has on blood and CSF movements. Altering the extent and rhythm
of breathing influences the quality and quantity of fluid movements around the
As described above, to really understand cranial compliance and
cerebral circulation you have to consider the brain and the cranial system as a
holistic whole. The complex cranial structures that influence brain
1) the skull and it's membranes; 2) the vessels and
their blood content; 3) the brain tissue; and 4) the cerebrospinal fluid system
within all of its various compartments and convolutions. The CSF system
cushions the brain and is, most importantly, responsible for the cleansing of
the tissue, like a special lymphatic system just for the brain that can remove
waste products too large to pass back into the blood
Second Quote posted by Cece on ThisIsMs.com Oct 12, 2012
Clin Anat. 2012 Jul ; 25(5):609-18 21976364
venous plexuses: The internal veins are muscular and external veins have
Mark D Stringer, Matthew Restieaux, Amanda L Fisher, Brynley
Department of Anatomy, Otago School of Medical Sciences, University
of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand.
The internal and external vertebral
venous plexuses (VVP) extend the length of the vertebral column. Authoritative
sources state that these veins are devoid of valves, permitting bidirectional
blood flow and facilitating the hematogenous spread of malignant tumors that
have venous connections with these plexuses. The aim of this investigation was
to identify morphologic features that might influence blood flow in the VVP.
The VVP of 12 adult cadavers (seven female, mean age 79.5 years) were examined
by macro- and micro-dissection and representative veins removed for histology
and immunohistochemistry (smooth muscle antibody staining). A total of 26,
mostly bicuspid, valves were identified in 19 of 56 veins (34%) from the
external VVP, all orientated to promote blood flow towards the internal VVP.
The internal VVP was characterized by four main longitudinal channels with
transverse interconnections; the maximum caliber of the longitudinal anterior
internal VVP veins was significantly greater than their posterior counterparts
(P < 0.001). The luminal architecture of the internal VVP veins was
striking, consisting of numerous bridging trabeculae (cords, thin membranes and
thick bridges) predominantly within the longitudinal venous channels.
Trabeculae were composed of collagen and smooth muscle and also contained
numerous small arteries and nerve fibers. A similar internal venous trabecular
meshwork is known to exist within the dural venous sinuses of the skull. It may
serve to prevent venous overdistension or collapse, to regulate the direction
and velocity of venous blood flow, or is possibly involved in thermoregulation
or other homeostatic processes. Clin. Anat. 25:609-618, 2012. © 2011 Wiley
I didn't for one moment suggest that's the case. Dr Amir's work should actually be reasonably easy to replicate by someone trained in dentistry.vesta wrote:I don't go for the idea that "I'm the only one who has an effective treatment for MS and you're going to pay me for it."
All he has done is researched disciplines outside of the normal focus of dental or jaw specialists and combined this into the work he does.
The golden benchmark of a treatment or a trail is can the results be replicated by other specialists, I don't see why Amir's results couldn't be replicated, by people who have spent some time understanding what he does.
In the same way those who follow and treat CCSVI were at some point tutored to some degree by Prof Zamboni or one of collegues.
The idea that "only I know how to do this and you all have to come to me" doesn't sit well on any level - but sometimes that's how groundbreaking discoveries occur. The perfect example of this is the two scientist that persevered with Helicobacter pylori despite being ridiculed by their peers.
This is the statement I was referring to. No matter. Consider the following:jencor69 wrote:I recently asked Dr Amir about the possibility of other practitioners offering this treatment and he said, "I have passed my teaching rights to someone who is working very hard to prepare teaching material to other dentists (at a price) and they do not want me to broadcast how or what the treatment entails"
I believe Dr. Zamboni has discovered the problem – venous blood reflux or CCSVI – but not the sole solution. Detoxification and nutritional therapy coupled with circulation therapies and/or skeletal adjustments may suffice to cure or control MS without taking the risk of angioplasty.
I've concluded there are 5 basic MS types, all of which leading to a reflux of venous blood into the Central Nervous System.
1) CONGENITAL vein malformations. 2) DEVELOPMENTAL vein malformations. 3) AGING vein malformations 4) SKELETAL – Cerebrospinal fluid pressure. 5) TOXIC MS.
As for the current categories of Relapse/Remit and the various Progressive MS's, I don't believe these properly describe the problem and certainly don't point to a solution. The various immunosuppressive drugs developed since 1990 are used only for the Relapse/Remit phase, so once you've hit the Progressive stage, you might as well listen to alternative ideas.
CONGENITAL: This idea is favoured by Phlebologists and Dr. Sclafani. However, it doesn’t account for the epidemiological variations in geography, culture or gender. It certainly can’t explain the dramatic increase in Japanese MS cases over the past 30 years. However, obviously it can be one factor.
DEVELOPMENTAL: My beginning hypothesis was that stress (of many potential origins) damages the veins in the child's developing body so that once adult the veins can no longer accommodate the blood flow. Defects in the circulatory system impede if not outright block blood flow leading from the brain and spinal cord leading to MS "attacks" and subsequent paralysis. It is for this reason that MS first generally manifests during or after adolescence. Dr. Zamboni himself observed deformities in the veins in the back and neck of MS patients. These areas correspond to Acupuncture meridians which control blood/fluid circulation.
AGING MS: The third type develops with age. There is no reason why veins shouldn't harden and malfunction as a part of the aging process. When the valves in veins draining the central nervous system malfunction, blood backs up to injure the myelin sheath.
THE ANGIOPLASTY CURE has been suggested for these types of MS (Congenital, Developmental, Aging) characterized by varied vein malformations - stenosed (narrowed), twisted, exhibiting stuck or deformed valves, or just plain missing. The Italian phlebologist Dr. Zamboni launched the theory he named CCSVI. The treatment consists of threading a catheter through the affected vein and opening it with a “balloon” . Initially the Internal Jugular Veins, the Vertebral Veins and the Chest Azygos vein were treated. Other veins leading from the spinal cord are now treated as well. Development of the Intravenous Ultrasound has allowed Interventional Radiologists to see what is going on inside the vein, determine the appropriate size of the balloon to open the stenosed vein without scarring, and avoid various complications. Stents have been inserted into veins which collapsed after being opened. (Dr. Sclafani believes the early 50% failure rate in the Jugular vein angioplasty occurred because the balloons were too small to open the veins sufficiently.) However, if the balloon is too large it risks scarring the vein lining tissue (endothelium) which might lead to thrombosis – the vein being closed off entirely. There have been cases where, after the initial “liberation”, the vein closes off again and each subsequent intervention leads to more scarring and tissue damage. Some have experienced little if any improvement. (Not all the veins leading from the spinal cord are treated.) Some have found themselves in a worse condition after the angioplasty than before. (One woman reported that her veins shriveled up into useless dried out structures through which no blood could flow.) Risks include brain hemorrhage, blood clots, and stent migration into the heart. Presumably with experience and the development of new techniques and material the few early tragedies which have occurred can be avoided. (Already use of the IntravenousUltrasound has decreased the risk factor dramatically.)
Some have reported dramatic recoveries, often with stents inserted, at least 2 years after Angioplasty. They have been CURED. (I don’t know the longest post operative success story. Treatments began sometime in 2009.) The lives of some have been so transformed that they now wonder if they should declare themselves free of MS and therefore ineligible for disability benefits.
Nonetheless, while some have been apparently cured, the risks of angioplasty are real. Before rushing into the operating theater, consider first treatment of Types 4) SKELETAL and 5) TOXIC MS.
SKELETAL MS: A misaligned skeletal, bone or dental structure can actually restrict the free flow of cerebrospinal fluid which in turn can compress or impede venous blood circulation. Structural problems can be either congenital or developmental in origin (e.g. accidents.) Recent scientific studies have focused on the interdependent dynamic of brain "fluids", the blood and the cerebrospinal fluid (CBF) which bathes the Central Nervous System. Excess cerebrospinal fluid can actually "compress" or limit blood circulation, hence the interest of Chiropractors in adjusting the Atlas bone to assure proper CBF circulation. If the problem is SKELETAL, angioplasty would not be appropriate. In this case it is not a problem INSIDE the vein but OUTSIDE. Chiropractic, Osteopathic or Dental adjustment may suffice to release the brain fluids flow leading to CURE or CONTROL.
FINALLY THERE IS TOXIC MS.
I include in this category not only known toxins such as mercury in dental amalgams, aspartame, glutens and various food intolerances, but myriad microbes/viruses such as mononucleosis, epstein barr, chlamydia, lyme as well as various metabolic disorders such as toxic "gut" and diabetes. OK that's a big category. One might say I am being simplistic. BUT MAYBE IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE. Whatever stresses the body in those individuals with a compromised vascular system may trigger the blood reflux into the CNS. Illness in childhood may damage the vascular system, stress including toxic stress may trigger the reflux. Toxicity itself may damage the veins. All these factors may stress the vascular system leading to a venous blood reflux. Detoxification, intestinal cleansing, and appropriate nutrition will reduce pressure on the vascular system as well as nurture the brain and heal nerve damage.
CURE: Some MS patients recover through diet cleansing and nutritional therapy alone. Some may have a "temporary" stress reaction to a toxic substance such as aspartame (or mercury in dental almagam fillings.) The reaction is "temporary" in the sense that once the toxin is removed, the MS symptoms disappear. I have even heard that removing glutens from the diet is sufficient to heal.
CONTROL: Dr. Terry Wahls (see You Tube Minding Your Mitochondria) presents another excellent example. She began her treatment by de-toxifying from the MS drugs which were poisoning her and then optimized her nutrition. Her recovery implies that her veins were not actually blocked, but tensed up enough to cause a reflux. Also, she stimulated her blood circulation by electrical stimulation of the bands of muscles on her back, in other words, the bladder meridian. Optimal Diet/Supplements serve two purposes. 1) to prevent stress on the vascular system which might lead to blood reflux and 2) heal damaged tissue.
In addition to nutritional therapy, most MS patients probably will require treatment to enhance blood circulation to prevent blood refluxes – massage, ayervedic massage, acupuncture, self acupressure, osteopathy, chiropractic, swimming.
Again, to make a long story short, Dr. Zamboni has discovered the problem – venous blood reflux or CCSVI – but not the sole solution. Detoxification and nutritional therapy coupled with circulation therapies and/or skeletal adjustments may suffice without taking the risk of angioplasty.
MS Cure Enigmas.net
Posted under CCSVI hread, title Five CCSVI MS Types
I think your final paragraph is apt.vesta wrote: Again, to make a long story short, Dr. Zamboni has discovered the problem – venous blood reflux or CCSVI – but not the sole solution. Detoxification and nutritional therapy coupled with circulation therapies and/or skeletal adjustments may suffice without taking the risk of angioplasty.
I just want to add that Atlas asymmetry is very dependent on dental symmetry. The later cannot be resolved with a quick adjustment. It needs prolonged treatment.
The former (Atlas) soon goes out of balance if the later is not corrected.
Correcting the later (dental asymmetry) often obviates the correction of the Atlas as demonstrated in a number of our patients.
Thank you for making an excellent contribution.
Fortunately it takes only one visit to fix the Atlas 99% of the time (having done some 600 patients). When it goes out on an odd occasion it is usually because of an accidental fall. So I cannot comment on the method you use to have it corrected regularly.civickiller wrote:but Dr. Amir can it work the other way? by continually fixing the atlas, will it result in correction of the jaw misalignment? as i have been correcting my atlas for 2 years which has prolonged my atlas needing to be readjusted from weekly to once every 3 weeks now. i hope it gets progressively better at holding the atlas alignment
If I just corrected the Atlas it may cause some minimal lateral change in the jaw but no more. The jaw will still have to be extensively worked on.
When the Atlas is out of synch the hips are also out by as much as 2 inches at the iliac crest. On correction the hips level out immediately. I doubt if the adjustment is limited to muscle stimulation without affecting the Atlas this would occur. The hips also stay permanently level.P600nlb wrote:Dr Amir, Looking at such procedures as the AtlasProfilax and Atlas Balance could it be that these actually stimulate the localised neck area rather than resetting the atlas therefore providing relief? There seems to be a wealth of evidence from other sources that these areas of the neck are critical to well being. There seems to be a hell of a lot of criticism around atlas realignment. Also what is you opinion on amalgam filings and their relationship with MS and TMD?
The Atlas alignment is critical but mid cervical areas are often seriously damaged as a consequence of dental asymmetries, dental extractions and often worsened by repeated high velocity adjustments. These areas also need correction to bring about relief in MS patients.
There are various reports about Amalgams causing illness but I never ask my patients to remove their amalgams. I like to get them to heal first and remove the amalgams after they have recovered as a voluntary treatment rather than obligatory.
Amalgam removal in ill patients often makes them worse because the composite resin replacement fillings have a tendency to erode more rapidly and the over closure of the mouth, even by the tiniest amount, makes the TMJ worse taking the patient over the edge and making the already present symptoms much worse.
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