Wahls diet discussion

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by ElliotB » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:06 pm

I just got the results back from the blood work I had done last week, and my numbers look great once again. I have been doing blood work every three months since starting The Real Diet of Man diet mid last year. Most interestingly was my cholesterol level, which has dropped a bit once again. While it is still slightly high, it was extremely high not too long ago, high enough to require medication. Based on the high meat/high good fat diet I am on and what most 'experts' tell us about the consumption of meat and fat and cholesterol, my cholesterol should be off the charts. Based on all the MS diets, I should be having relapses on a daily basis. I have now been on The Real diet of Man high fat diet (only grass fed meats) for almost 9 months and am positively amazed at the results and optimistic about my MS future.

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by metabolic » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:07 pm

Hi ElliotB that looks like a pure whole foods diet, very positive. It's pretty much what I'm doing, but I eat quite a lot of fruit (berries and oranges), a little rice and sweet potato. I get most of my glycogen from fruits. I go easy on the starch due to persorption: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8415433
One thing I discovered recently is that if you have orange juice, it's best to squeeze yourself or buy organic - cholinesterase inhibitors and organophosphates are used which are neurotoxins. http://livingglutenandgrainfree.com/201 ... -100-pure/
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Post by ElliotB » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:08 pm

No thyroid issues. Feeling great. And still improving.

metabolic, how are you doing?

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by metabolic » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:12 am

I'm doing well, but just can't seem to crack this sleep thing, which impacts me negatively. Whenever I sleep well, I feel great. I suspect it's work stress as I have a very supportive family and am happy in that regard. I've tried various adaptogens and think ashwaghanda works a little for me, but the effect is very subtle. Time for some meditation :)
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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by vesta » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:45 pm

Matt is Ashton Embry's (founder of Direct-MS) son. Matt was diagnosed with MS 20 years ago. He's not selling anything....just offering some hope and healing.
Kudos to Matt for going public with his MS diagnosis and sharing this important information.
He's a film maker...so these videos are really well done.

http://www.mshope.com

cheer"

cheerleader posted this on Jan, 17, 2015 and I think it's a good basic guide for starters. Vesta

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by Kpgal » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:41 am

Anyone start Wahls and feel cruddy for the first week or two, then start to feel the benefits?

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by ElliotB » Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:42 pm

Any benefits (or issues) from the Wahls protocol or any other would occur over a longer period of time rather than a few days or a week or two.

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Post by husamsdu » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:09 am

I used to do Wahls diet and i was walking very well. Now I don't do this diet and I have spasticity in my legs :( I will try CCSVI and returnt to Wahls protocol.

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by lyndacarol » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:48 pm

Interesting…

Dr. Terry Wahls' Protocol That Reversed Multiple Sclerosis (20 min.)


Rhonda Patrick, PhD, interviews Dr. Terry Wahls

Published trial results: J Altern Complement Med. 2014 May; 20(5): 347-55.
A multimodal intervention for patients with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis: feasibility and effect on fatigue.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24476345

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by NHE » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:55 pm

lyndacarol wrote:Published trial results: J Altern Complement Med. 2014 May; 20(5): 347-55.
A multimodal intervention for patients with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis: feasibility and effect on fatigue.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24476345
The full text of this paper can be found at http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10 ... .2013.0188

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by orphansparrow » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:48 pm

ElliotB wrote:I just got the results back from the blood work I had done last week, and my numbers look great once again. I have been doing blood work every three months since starting The Real Diet of Man diet mid last year. Most interestingly was my cholesterol level, which has dropped a bit once again. While it is still slightly high, it was extremely high not too long ago, high enough to require medication. Based on the high meat/high good fat diet I am on and what most 'experts' tell us about the consumption of meat and fat and cholesterol, my cholesterol should be off the charts. Based on all the MS diets, I should be having relapses on a daily basis. I have now been on The Real diet of Man high fat diet (only grass fed meats) for almost 9 months and am positively amazed at the results and optimistic about my MS future.
Hi Elliot. The Real Diet of Man looks a lot like Wahls, is that right? My husband and I have started Wahls Paleo Plus diet since he was diagnosed last week. (We're coming from a high carb, vegan diet including lots of vegan junk foods). We're going to do Wahls Paleo Plus all the way - until we feel like maybe something else would work better. I wondered what the blood tests tell you concerning MS. Is there something we should look at in the future in his blood tests? I figured the MRIs would be the thing to look at. I'm glad you're doing well! Thank you so much.

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Post by lyndacarol » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:06 pm

orphansparrow wrote:My husband and I have started Wahls Paleo Plus diet since he was diagnosed last week. (We're coming from a high carb, vegan diet including lots of vegan junk foods). We're going to do Wahls Paleo Plus all the way - until we feel like maybe something else would work better. I wondered what the blood tests tell you concerning MS. Is there something we should look at in the future in I figured the MRIs would be the thing to look at.
Since vitamin B12 is only found in animal-based foods, vegans are often B12 deficient (as you probably know).

I hope your husband's doctor has been monitoring his B12 level because vitamin B12 deficiency can cause neurological symptoms like those found in MS.

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Re: Wahls diet discussion

Post by orphansparrow » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:18 pm

lyndacarol wrote:
orphansparrow wrote:My husband and I have started Wahls Paleo Plus diet since he was diagnosed last week. (We're coming from a high carb, vegan diet including lots of vegan junk foods). We're going to do Wahls Paleo Plus all the way - until we feel like maybe something else would work better. I wondered what the blood tests tell you concerning MS. Is there something we should look at in the future in I figured the MRIs would be the thing to look at.
Since vitamin B12 is only found in animal-based foods, vegans are often B12 deficient (as you probably know).

I hope your husband's doctor has been monitoring his B12 level because vitamin B12 deficiency can cause neurological symptoms like those found in MS.


Hi Lyndacarol ~ We just got our first blood tests done yesterday. They didn't think his being vegan would be an issue seeing as that he had only been for about 6 months, and before that was a big meat eater. The point is, he has always eaten a ton of carbs and sugar as well, so now we've totally cut that out, and started eating meat. Amazing what a diagnosis will do for your diet!

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