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from the daily kos :!: :!:


Current estimates of the number Americans with MS are about 400,000. Estimates of U.S. prevalence of ME/CFS are about four million. Both of these diseases can rapidly become disabling and persist for years or decades. Any plausible suggestion of a pathway to cure or remission should obviously be investigated to its fullest by our best and most insightful researchers. But this rarely happens. Usually, government/academic/corporate machinery kicks into gear to smother the most innovative, perceptive research.

We can guess at reasons why, but in a secretive and manipulative system it gets hard to determine true causes.


It could be as simple as an agency, medical specialty, or corporation unwilling to admit they have been embarrassingly wrong for a long time. It could be the unwillingness of the medical doctor culture to deviate from their medical textbooks or professional group guidelines.


More cynically, it could be that medical resistance to new ideas comes from entrenched investment by drug companies, medical device manufacturers, and medical specialities profiting substantially from the status quo.


Health insurers could be the real cause of the problem. They like predictability. They would rather have a disease classified as incurable with predictable costs than have it be curable with unpredictable costs.
Regardless of motivation, there is a pattern of behavior among our government backed researchers that is not good.


We see it in recent government-academic-corporate handling of CCSVI.


Zamboni published his first paper on CCSVI and MS in April,2009 (web availability December, 2008). Without the efforts of patient advocates, the news might have gone unnoticed. In February, 2010 Canadian news media picked up the story and in June, 2010 The New York Times published a fairly balanced article.

In a National Post article, in January, 2010, Dr. Mark Freedman states “I think there are going to be millions of dollars spent now to follow a hoax…. If I thought for one instant there was substance to this, I’d be all over it,”. Freedman is head of U. of Ottawa’s MS program.


Dr. Zamboni has always presented his observations with the great caution, saying only that we need to find out more. The vitriol directed at him is unwarranted, almost spectacular, and, depending on the career strategy of the journalist, either reported reasonably, or as vitriol confirmation.

Neurology specialists want to own MS. They prescribe expensive, injectable drugs that generally make patients feel worse and only produce improved symptoms about a third of the time. Science has little to do with this. Their popular theory of genetic differences in the immune system causing MS, were recently refuted in an extremely rigorous study in identical twins. There was no indication of genetic causation, nor has there ever been, but that does not change neurologists’ minds.

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another positive article - Go Canada

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Here is another positive article..... Yeah Canada, I think Canada might break this wide open for everyone in time
http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/20 ... 30396.html
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Erin, this is fabulous press for CCSVI. Thanks for posting it!!
CCSVI:  Making Sense of MS
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Thanks Livabirdshubby for your vote of confidence in Canada. Those of us who live here are incredibly frustrated at the barriers and obstacles we are facing.

Here's another article. If a 72 year old Canadian woman can dance around her kitchen without her cane after being treated in Mexico, there's hope for "oldies" like me at age 59 with an MS history of 26 years!

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I apologize if this (another "must-read") article has already been posted somewhere on TIMS.

Launch MS clinical trials immediately, researcher urges
- By Hannah Scissons, Saskatoon StarPhoenix August 27, 2010


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SASKATOON — Clinical trials of the controversial liberation treatment for multiple sclerosis should happen immediately, says a former University of Saskatchewan researcher who proposed an eerily similar theory more than a decade ago.

Bernhard Juurlink published a hypothesis in 1998 that MS is related to decreased blood flow in the brain and spinal cord.

"It was very difficult to get anyone interested in this idea — the idea was easily testable by, for example, looking for blood flow in white matter in MS patients," Juurlink said in an interview this week. "I tried to first interest clinical colleagues to image brains of MS and non-MS patients, to look at blood flow, with no success."

Last year, Italian vascular surgeon Dr. Paolo Zamboni proposed that narrowed or blocked veins in the neck are related to MS and inflating the veins with a balloon angioplasty procedure can alleviate symptoms.

The procedure isn't available in Canada because it hasn't been scientifically validated, but Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall has called for clinical trials, which he'd like to see start soon.

Meanwhile, a growing number of Canadians with MS have travelled to Bulgaria, Poland, India, Mexico and the United States to have their veins widened. They bring back anecdotal reports of immediate results, such as restored warmth to their feet and hands, clearer vision and decreased fatigue.

Juurlink was at the University of Saskatchewan from 1975 until 2008, when he moved to Saudi Arabia as a founding faculty member of Alfaisal University; he serves a professor of anatomy and cell biology.

He said his research into strokes intersected with MS research during the 1990s when he started looking at the development of the cells that form myelin, the fatty sheaths around the brain's axons — portions of nerve cells that transmit electrical impulses. Damage to the myelin sheaths caused by immune cell attacks is the commonly accepted cause of MS.

MS research has almost completely focused on the immune attack, but Juurlink found reports of myelin breakdowns in the absence of immune cells. That led him to wonder what else could cause the damage.

Because of his research into strokes, he knew the first tissues affected when blood flow in the brain is reduced are the myelin-covered nerve fibres — and that some of the changes caused in the brain resemble the changes in the brains of MS patients.

While a scientist at the Cameco MS Neuroscience Research Centre in Saskatoon, he hypothesized that reduced blood flow could be the cause of MS lesions in the brain and, consequently, lesions may be prevented by increasing the blood flow.

"It wasn't covered up, but it went against the grain of what was considered to be common knowledge, that everybody knew, despite the evidence to the contrary. This was completely ignored," said Juurlink. "Once ideas are accepted, it's very difficult to get individuals to look at a problem in a different light.

"Despite what scientists claim — that they're open-minded — it's actually not the case, usually, because everybody says, 'Of course, it's an immune attack, we know it's an immune attack.'"

However, the relation of vein obstructions to MS won't be known without carefully controlled, double-blinded clinical trials, Juurlink said. "Personally, I don't understand why we don't have immediate clinical trials."

Current work related to Zamboni's theory at Saskatoon's research centre focuses on whether the veins are restricted. The lead researcher, Dr. Katherine Knox, said this week her team is focusing on that work before moving on to any potential clinical trials.

The dean of the U of S's college of medicine, Dr. William Albritton, and provincial Health Minister Don McMorris have both spoken recently of clinical trials being fast-tracked.

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"medical history is being changed around the world and Canada is a non-participant in treatment protocols.

I sincerely hope there was no information drawn from the recent Albert Health Services bulletin now described as incomplete and full of false claims.

In the story, a “rogue clinic in Albany, NY” was mentioned.

What qualifies a clinic to be called rogue and who can make this judgment? For example, Matt and Dan’s doctor in Mexico has 24 years experience as one of their top vascular surgeons. Is he a rogue doctor because he extended a hand to help them and 17 other Canadians with congested veins?

Could the term “malpractice” be extended to doctors who know their patients are suffering from venous anomalies and do nothing about it because health boards cry “controversial and unproven?” "

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However, the relation of vein obstructions to MS won't be known without carefully controlled, double-blinded clinical trials, Juurlink said. "Personally, I don't understand why we don't have immediate clinical trials."
The answer to this, at least in Dr. Sclafani's thread, is because the doctors need the next year to get proficient at the technique.

It is reminiscent of the carotid artery stenting debacle, when the new technique of stenting was tested against the already perfected techique of full surgery. Stenting did not win in those trials and it took years for the truth to come out that it was in fact the better approach.
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For every good news story - a bad.

What do people think of this one?

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/entertain ... story.html
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nicknewf wrote:For every good news story - a bad.

What do people think of this one?

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/entertain ... story.html
has no known benefit and a disproved theoretical basis.
We know pretty well where such stance comes from. As Simka said - when Caravan passes, the dogs will bark ...
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This maybe useful to folks from china (Zen???):

http://www.ccsviclinic.com/index.php?ti ... c_in_China
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http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 97171.html

Toronto paper today..."2 years if at all" for ccsvi research. wow
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http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Health/201009 ... ng-100914/
Meanwhile, the editor-in-chief of the Canadian Medical Association Journal says he's pleased that while provincial health ministers are interested in studying the liberation treatment, they won't yet fund the treatment.
"From my perspective, the premiers did a very good thing," Hebert told CTV's Canada AM Tuesday.
But Hebert says he agrees with the decision by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research not to fund studies yet, because there isn't enough data to show that it is either worthy of further study or safe.

"I think at this point, it's very premature for patients to go out and get this,"

Probably this one beats the rest ...
Hebert said. "The data on using it is very sparse. We know very little about whether these blockages have any relationship to the disease."
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http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/15/aglu ... treatment/
Zamboni’s approach contradicts entrenched thinking that MS is a neurological condition and autoimmune disorder best treated by drugs. But these drugs, with their laundry list of side effects, also pose huge risks, including fatal brain disease. Even Alain Beaudet, the president of CIHR and chair of the CIHR report, concedes the balloon angioplasty advocated by Zamboni is a “relatively low-risk” procedure. The greatest risk of venous angioplasty is veins collapsing again, he told Maclean’s.
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Make decision on CCSVI based on facts By Cynthia Block, Special to The StarPhoenix September 16, 2010

Following is the viewpoint of Block, a communications consultant and freelance writer in Saskatoon. Her mother has multiple sclerosis.

Information on chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency needs more careful discernment of the facts.

To polarize the issue does not help people with multiple sclerosis or educate any of us. Reasonable people can disagree on what the facts mean, but it would help if we could agree on the facts themselves.

- CCSVI is a real medical condition that has been scientifically validated and published in medical journals. Veins move blood. Blocked veins impede blood flow. MS is said to be a neurological disorder that affects the immune system. CCSVI is a venous condition. Having MS should not prevent one from seeking treatment for CCSVI.

- The risk of death is rated at one in 1,000 for all angioplasties. Interventional radiologists use balloon and stent angioplasty daily in thousands of patients with diverse venous conditions.

The University of British Columbia, which is partnering with the University of Saskatchewan to study CCSVI states:

"Theoretically, venous dilation alone should be relatively safe." The medical community seems to agree the benefit outweighs the risk.

- A clinical trial is defined as a controlled test of a new drug or a new invasive medical device on human subjects.

They are performed on volunteers who decide the risk is worth it. We can debate how one decides what constitutes a safe clinical trial, but by definition they are risky.

- Dozens of countries are offering CCSVI treatment, some of whom provide treatment at various clinics in multiple cities. Most complete 75 to 125 CCSVI procedures monthly. It's hard to know precisely how many such procedures have been performed, but the number certainly is in the thousands.

- While early indicators are promising, science needs proof to determine if CCSVI treatment helps MS or if it is placebo effect. This should strengthen the case for clinical trials.

- Dr. Paolo Zamboni makes it clear that catheter venography is the gold standard in detecting CCSVI. However, when German and Swedish studies came out, it was apparent the studies did not use Zamboni scanning protocols. To have news media cite these studies as evidence that disputes the link between CCSVI and MS is troubling.

- The Canadian government will not fund CCSVI clinical trials following the advice of an expert panel that included 17 neurologists, four executives with the MS Society and Canadian Institute of Health Research, one pediatrician and a vascular specialist.

Interventional radiologists say CCSVI research should be a priority. We could debate whose opinion on CCSVI is "expert," but logically you wouldn't ask an electrician to fix your plumbing.

- The MS Society states that the cost of disease-modifying drugs for patients varies from $20,000 to $40,000 per person annually. The cost for one person to receive venous angioplasty, according to Ontario vascular specialist Dr. Sandy MacDonald, is $1,500. Taxpayers should welcome efforts to reduce health- care costs.

- Revenue for the Multiple Sclerosis Society in 2009 was $33.7 million, mostly from donations. In 2010, its total budget for CCSVI is $700,000. We could debate whether the latter is appropriate, but clearly CCSVI is not a priority for the society.

- The Saskatchewan government will fund clinical trials for CCSVI. With the highest incidence of MS in Canada, with interventional radiologists on side, thousands of cases of clinical and anecdotal evidence, health-care costs skyrocketing and people suffering, the decision seems logical, ethical, humane and prudent.

The facts are useful to elevate the public discourse on CCSVI, but the purpose is to help the thousands of men and women who face a terrifying future of pain, disability and drugs.

They are counting on their doctors to put special interests aside, their politicians to choose experts wisely, and the news media to do their homework in order to do what's best for people with MS.

Read more: http://www.thestarphoenix.com/opinion/M ... tml#ixzz0z
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Following is a link to a VERY disturbing CBC bit supporting the 'cognitive dissonance' epidemic in healthcare .. Dr Jock Murray has a part. The goal may have been to get us to stop and think.. for me, the results were quite the contrary.. if i knew the way..i'd RUN to the nearest I.R. available!! yoi

http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplaye ... 1595916437

30 minutes of 8O
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