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sara-sama wrote:
uprightdoc wrote:
sara-sama wrote: I wonder if wearing (high heels) constantly, or the dangerous games, may causing damage in the head, neck, spine, and that may affect the ischemic brain?
Hello Sara-sama,
High heels are a problem but nearly as bad as what you call "dangerous games." Injuries to the head and neck can affect the vertebral arteries and blood supply to the brain.

Thanks Dr.Flanagan,
I mean those games are in (amusement park), as in the following images
Is it really dangerous and should be avoid them .. What is your advice?

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The beginning of MS?

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scorpion wrote:

The beginning of MS?

http://mommy23monkeys.com/wp-content/up ... 140_L4.jpg


Thanks scorpion for a wonderful discovery ....

Unfortunately , it does not benefit me, because my sister has Als .
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uprightdoc wrote:
To spare readers as well as my personal time, I will turn the dilogue and debate about the jugular veins back to the vascular docs. Perhaps we can have a discussion or debate that includes the vertebral veins another time.
Spoken like a true gentleman; I was not surprised by the way the other guy acted.
We had a neurologist appt yesterday...close to tears from frustration in getting nowhere with them. My husband wanted to just have the neuro consider his case as new, and not as the one already diagnosed by her prestigious colleagues. It was very stressful. The lack of striving for answers makes me wish we had the apple people trying to find answers, and not the "specialists". They need to be able to USE their noodles collaboratively.
Thank you Dr Flanagan, from the ones they have given up on....
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Dear Dr Flanagan

I have had ccsvi LIJ obstruction I continue with my chiro massage , I attend an Upper cervical chiropractor for upper cervical correction along with weekly visits to the HBOT

1)May I ask for your oponion on IBT ?

2)Is there a special pillow that would support our neck and spine whilst we sleep?

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uprightdoc wrote:Frodo,
Thanks again for the information but it appears Dr. Scalfani may have misrepresented his intentions about having a dialogue or debate on different points of view as stated.

To spare readers as well as my personal time, I will turn the dilogue and debate about the jugular veins back to the vascular docs. Perhaps we can have a discussion or debate that includes the vertebral veins another time.
Dear Dr Flanagan, you did what you had to. There is nothing wrong with trying, let alone the fact that by your kind gesture some things simply became EVEN MORE apparent.
At this point, I find it useful to inform people that you are the only one who is there every time I need advice even by private emails.
Please, keep helping people. The rest is history and elitism is the plague of modern medicine.
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Thank-you all for your comments. I am trying to catch up so if I missed any questions please just repost them.

Silverbirch asked about inclined bed therapy and pillows. The answer is I think it is probably a wash with minimal benefits but if it feels good then do it. The problems is some people have genetic or acquired structural problems that cannot be overcome by tilting the bed.

As far as pillows are concerned, I have never seen special cervical pillows that were better than regular pillows. You cannot improve abnormal curvatures by lying on pillows. If it were possible we would have found a cure for scoliosis a long time ago. On top of that, people don't stay in one position when they sleep.

The answer is to invest in good beds and bedding. Pillows are very personal and should suit the individual. The goal is to keep the head relatively even with the spine while on your back so that does not bend backwards or forward. When you are lying on your side it should keep your head aligned with your spine. Ideally, the head should not bend down or up. I like hypoallergenic memory foam or classic high quality duck pillows. For people with low back pain, hip problems, scoliosis, etc., I have them experiment with rectangular shapped (not tubes) long body pillows for when they lie on their side. It takes the weight of the legs off of the spine.

The most important thing is to get a good nights sleep. Find what's comfortable. It doesn't cost much and it's worth the investment in time to find the right pillows.
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For those of you who are interested, its got a long way to go but my new website is up and running. The link to the website is below.

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Excellent work Dear Dr Flanagan. I wouldn't expect less of course. Thank you very much.
I am off to read everything now!
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hi costume, was wondering if you were still kicking..hopefully you are kicking higher nowadays with dr. flanagan's help and your home chiro.

always grateful to you for bringing dr. flanagan to tims.
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Hi Dr Flanagan,

I have found a Chiropractor I could see while I'm here in Napa, Dr. Tanya Mills, DC. She doesn't use the Blair technique. She uses either an activator or an integrator (MC2).

Her web site is: http://www.millsfamilywellness.com/

and her email address: info@millsfamilywellness.com

What are your feelings on this? I told her you might contact her for more information and she was receptive.

Thank you,
Lora
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Ruthless67 wrote:I have found a Chiropractor I could see while I'm here in Napa, Dr. Tanya Mills, DC. She doesn't use the Blair technique. She uses either an activator or an integrator (MC2).

What are your feelings on this?
I have never heard of MC2 before and I can't determine anything about the technique from the website. The site mentions nothing about analysis or method of correction. As for the activator, upper cervical methods do not use the activator as it lacks control and specificity. Percussion hammers used in upper cervical are not hand held. Precise percussion hammers used by upper cervical doctors are mounted on stands and the stylus is set to a specific line of correction.

Is the doctor going to use the same listing and line of correction as the Blair doctor. If not, what parameters does she use to determine the misalignment and method of correction?
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Hi Dr Flanagan,

That was all the info I got from her. I think I just better wait until I get back to Montana and can see Dr Fancher again.

I don't want anyone undoing the great work he has done on me so far.

Just thought it wouldn't hurt to have a look see, but I feel good, so I'll wait.

Thanks for your prompt response.

Lora
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Hello Uprightdoc,
I had to break down and join the forum to say I have been following the good doctor's blog, this thread and now the new Upright website and it all makes so much sense! So much so I ordered your book and am reading with many enlightening moments while trying to remember my university human anatomy class. I am not a person with MS but my boyfriend was diagnosed with PPMS in 2006. He is now 33 and relies heavily on a cane to get around. He was treated for CCSVI via angiplasty in Bulgaria in July and felt great...for about a week. He went back to check for restenosis after a week but they did not find any.
He has certainly had some trauma and whiplash over the years being a real live cowboy he has taken falls off horses since childhood and was a saddle bronc rider in professional rodeo until retirement due to MS. Along the way he has been in several vehicle accidents, two roll overs and several times in vehicle that was hit from behind.
He had migranes in his teens and today his troubles include cold and numbness from foot to knee, poor balance, tingling hands, headaches, fatigue, back pain and recently a pain that feels like an aching tailbone (and I am sure he hasn't told me about them all). He is about 6'1", slightly narrow in frame and lately I have been thinking his head looks square!
I have found a NUCCA chiro near to us (not as close as he would like), a doctor Jeff Scholten, and have booked him in for Monday. I have had to assure my boyfriend that I am not trying to have someone break his neck.
Dr. Flanagan do you think I am on the right track? Do you have any insights on this case?
:wink: Thanks for all of your time spent helping others!
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CountryGirl wrote: my boyfriend was diagnosed with PPMS in 2006. He is now 33 and relies heavily on a cane to get around. He was treated for CCSVI via angiplasty in Bulgaria in July and felt great...for about a week. He went back to check for restenosis after a week but they did not find any.
He has certainly had some trauma and whiplash over the years being a real live cowboy he has taken falls off horses since childhood and was a saddle bronc rider in professional rodeo until retirement due to MS. Along the way he has been in several vehicle accidents, two roll overs and several times in vehicle that was hit from behind.
He had migranes in his teens and today his troubles include cold and numbness from foot to knee, poor balance, tingling hands, headaches, fatigue, back pain and recently a pain that feels like an aching tailbone (and I am sure he hasn't told me about them all). He is about 6'1", slightly narrow in frame and lately I have been thinking his head looks square!
I have found a NUCCA chiro near to us (not as close as he would like), a doctor Jeff Scholten, and have booked him in for Monday. I have had to assure my boyfriend that I am not trying to have someone break his neck.
Dr. Flanagan do you think I am on the right track? Do you have any insights on this case?
Hello Countrygirl,
You are absolutely on the right track. On the other hand, the CCSVI route was putting the cart way before the horse. Did anyone take his history and some plain view x-rays?
Ballooning the IJ won't correct an injury or misalignment of the cervical spine. It won't improve drainage through the vertebral veins and it won't improve blood flow through the vertebral basilar arteries (migraine headaches and cerebellar problems with balance). It won't improve CSF flow through the subarachnoid space either, which can increase pressure on the cord in the upper cervical spine, and it certainly won't improve an injury to the tailbone, which is where the cord is anchored. Injuries to the tail end of the cord can tether and traction the brainstem downward in the cranial vault, which among other things, can block venous drainage outlets.

Your boyfriend is typical of many male patients. They can be real tough cowboys but they pass out at the thought of hypodermic needles and chiropractic adjustments. Aside from Atlas Orthogonal, NUCCA is about as gentle as it gets.

Keep me posted.
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Hello Everyone,

I've been away for a while but now I'm back. My extended absence was initially due in part to opening up my new office but secondly my father in law passed away recently. I can already tell I've got quite a bit of reading to catch up on but from what I've already read I can see that Dr. Flanagan has been doing an outstanding job keeping up with everything. I'm also very happy to hear the reports from those of you under Specific Upper Cervical Care seeing relief from your symptoms. I hope to read many more posts like those as well. I hope everyone had a great holiday season and has gotten off to a great start for the New Year!
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