Re: Coronavirus (COVID-19): What You Need To Know
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:08 pm
Something I recently sent to my relatives and friends:
An addition to what I already sent (shown below):
Covid19 is a self-assembled nanoparticle, not really alive.
People who work in the nanotechnology industry may know how scary that is. The human race may be defeated by a mechanism Darwin warned us about. The fittest survive, and survival sometimes means accidentally finding a way to wipe out everything else.
For now, please recognize that what's killing people is mucus and gravity. It is assisted by lung power. Once infected mucus gets into your lungs it is very very hard, if not impossible to remove it, even with a good immune system. You can't as far as I know, put soap in your lungs. I have had my mouth washed out with soap so I know that is possible too. But very strong alcohol is my preference. To be frank, what is mostly likely to kill you is a sniffle that ends up in your lungs. That may not have happened yet, or maybe it has, if so, you can clean your mucus membranes, eyes and nose, with soap. Soap must be flushed immediately from your eyes with warm water, preferably running water, such as what comes from the shower.
While you are in the shower, you can get dilute, warm, soapy water as far as your mouth (and no farther) by snorting it there, with a very short snort. Don't snort too far, or you will reach your lungs, and you may die of Covid19. If you want to risk it, put a small amount of shampoo suds on your hand. Hold both hands together and fill them with warm water, which will now be a bit soapy. Snort it up your nose. Anything the soap touches will be virus-free. If you are allergic it will make you sneeze, so don't share this shower with others. If you use shampoo that is easy on the eyes you should not have any pain, even when you wash your eyes, if you flush them immediately with clean warm water. Many kinds of soap can be left in your nose and only flushed out next time you shower.
I hope nothing bad happens to you. Good luck.
Post-script about old people: Old people must not be left to die, as they have been in Spain and Italy. They are the only ones who remember the excesses and mistakes of the 20th century, such as WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and so on. Such as Ewan Cameron's CIA funded experiments on psychiatric patients. If we let them die we will lose a lot of guitarists and other musicians.
Chris
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I would add that mucus membranes, eyes and nose, can both be cleaned with dilute soapy water, as long as eyes are flushed immediately. This will kill the virus:
>> Opinion
>> Coronavirus outbreak
>> The science of soap – here’s how it kills the coronavirus
>> Pall Thordarson
>> Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin
>> Thu 12 Mar 2020 09.40 GMT
>> Last modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020 10.56 GMT
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... infectants
>>
>> ‘Soap dissolves the fat membrane of the virus – and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies.’ Photograph: Flashpop/Getty Images
>>
>> Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. Disinfectants, liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol are all useful at getting rid of them – but they are not quite as good as normal soap.
>> With Italy in lockdown, fear over coronavirus is natural but we must not be alarmist
>>
>> When I shared the information above using Twitter, it went viral. I think I have worked out why. Health authorities have been giving us two messages: once you have the virus there are no drugs that can kill it or help you get rid of it. But also, wash your hands to stop the virus spreading. This seems odd. You can’t, even for a million dollars, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills the virus.
>>
>> So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.
>>
>> The slightly longer story is that most viruses consist of three key building blocks: ribonucleic acid (RNA), proteins and lipids. A virus-infected cell makes lots of these building blocks, which then spontaneously self-assemble to form the virus. Critically, there are no strong covalent bonds holding these units together, which means you do not necessarily need harsh chemicals to split those units apart. When an infected cell dies, all these new viruses escape and go on to infect other cells. Some end up also in the airways of lungs.
>>
>> You can’t, for any price, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills it
>>
>> When you cough, or especially when you sneeze, tiny droplets from the airways can fly up to 10 metres. The larger ones are thought to be the main coronavirus carriers and they can go at least two metres.
>>
>> These tiny droplets end on surfaces and often dry out quickly. But the viruses remain active. Human skin is an ideal surface for a virus. It is “organic” and the proteins and fatty acids in the dead cells on the surface interact with the virus.
>>
>> When you touch, say, a steel surface with a virus particle on it, it will stick to your skin and hence get transferred on to your hands. If you then touch your face, especially your eyes, nostrils or mouth, you can get infected. And it turns out that most people touch their face once every two to five minutes.
>>
>> Washing the virus off with water alone might work. But water is not good at competing with the strong, glue-like interactions between the skin and the virus. Water isn’t enough.
>>
>> Soapy water is totally different. Soap contains fat-like substances known as amphiphiles, some of which are structurally very similar to the lipids in the virus membrane. The soap molecules “compete” with the lipids in the virus membrane. This is more or less how soap also removes normal dirt from the skin.
>>
>> The soap not only loosens the “glue” between the virus and the skin but also the Velcro-like interactions that hold the proteins, lipids and RNA in the virus together.
>>
>> Alcohol-based products, which pretty much includes all “disinfectant” products, contain a high-percentage alcohol solution (typically 60-80% ethanol) and kill viruses in a similar fashion. But soap is better because you only need a fairly small amount of soapy water, which, with rubbing, covers your entire hand easily. Whereas you need to literally soak the virus in ethanol for a brief moment, and wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough.
>>
>> So, soap is the best, but do please use alcohol-based sanitiser when soap is not handy or practical.
>>
>> Pall Thordarson is a professor of chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney
>>
>> Don't use alcohol on your eyes and nose.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
An addition to what I already sent (shown below):
Covid19 is a self-assembled nanoparticle, not really alive.
People who work in the nanotechnology industry may know how scary that is. The human race may be defeated by a mechanism Darwin warned us about. The fittest survive, and survival sometimes means accidentally finding a way to wipe out everything else.
For now, please recognize that what's killing people is mucus and gravity. It is assisted by lung power. Once infected mucus gets into your lungs it is very very hard, if not impossible to remove it, even with a good immune system. You can't as far as I know, put soap in your lungs. I have had my mouth washed out with soap so I know that is possible too. But very strong alcohol is my preference. To be frank, what is mostly likely to kill you is a sniffle that ends up in your lungs. That may not have happened yet, or maybe it has, if so, you can clean your mucus membranes, eyes and nose, with soap. Soap must be flushed immediately from your eyes with warm water, preferably running water, such as what comes from the shower.
While you are in the shower, you can get dilute, warm, soapy water as far as your mouth (and no farther) by snorting it there, with a very short snort. Don't snort too far, or you will reach your lungs, and you may die of Covid19. If you want to risk it, put a small amount of shampoo suds on your hand. Hold both hands together and fill them with warm water, which will now be a bit soapy. Snort it up your nose. Anything the soap touches will be virus-free. If you are allergic it will make you sneeze, so don't share this shower with others. If you use shampoo that is easy on the eyes you should not have any pain, even when you wash your eyes, if you flush them immediately with clean warm water. Many kinds of soap can be left in your nose and only flushed out next time you shower.
I hope nothing bad happens to you. Good luck.
Post-script about old people: Old people must not be left to die, as they have been in Spain and Italy. They are the only ones who remember the excesses and mistakes of the 20th century, such as WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and so on. Such as Ewan Cameron's CIA funded experiments on psychiatric patients. If we let them die we will lose a lot of guitarists and other musicians.
Chris
***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I would add that mucus membranes, eyes and nose, can both be cleaned with dilute soapy water, as long as eyes are flushed immediately. This will kill the virus:
>> Opinion
>> Coronavirus outbreak
>> The science of soap – here’s how it kills the coronavirus
>> Pall Thordarson
>> Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin
>> Thu 12 Mar 2020 09.40 GMT
>> Last modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020 10.56 GMT
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... infectants
>>
>> ‘Soap dissolves the fat membrane of the virus – and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies.’ Photograph: Flashpop/Getty Images
>>
>> Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. Disinfectants, liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol are all useful at getting rid of them – but they are not quite as good as normal soap.
>> With Italy in lockdown, fear over coronavirus is natural but we must not be alarmist
>>
>> When I shared the information above using Twitter, it went viral. I think I have worked out why. Health authorities have been giving us two messages: once you have the virus there are no drugs that can kill it or help you get rid of it. But also, wash your hands to stop the virus spreading. This seems odd. You can’t, even for a million dollars, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills the virus.
>>
>> So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.
>>
>> The slightly longer story is that most viruses consist of three key building blocks: ribonucleic acid (RNA), proteins and lipids. A virus-infected cell makes lots of these building blocks, which then spontaneously self-assemble to form the virus. Critically, there are no strong covalent bonds holding these units together, which means you do not necessarily need harsh chemicals to split those units apart. When an infected cell dies, all these new viruses escape and go on to infect other cells. Some end up also in the airways of lungs.
>>
>> You can’t, for any price, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills it
>>
>> When you cough, or especially when you sneeze, tiny droplets from the airways can fly up to 10 metres. The larger ones are thought to be the main coronavirus carriers and they can go at least two metres.
>>
>> These tiny droplets end on surfaces and often dry out quickly. But the viruses remain active. Human skin is an ideal surface for a virus. It is “organic” and the proteins and fatty acids in the dead cells on the surface interact with the virus.
>>
>> When you touch, say, a steel surface with a virus particle on it, it will stick to your skin and hence get transferred on to your hands. If you then touch your face, especially your eyes, nostrils or mouth, you can get infected. And it turns out that most people touch their face once every two to five minutes.
>>
>> Washing the virus off with water alone might work. But water is not good at competing with the strong, glue-like interactions between the skin and the virus. Water isn’t enough.
>>
>> Soapy water is totally different. Soap contains fat-like substances known as amphiphiles, some of which are structurally very similar to the lipids in the virus membrane. The soap molecules “compete” with the lipids in the virus membrane. This is more or less how soap also removes normal dirt from the skin.
>>
>> The soap not only loosens the “glue” between the virus and the skin but also the Velcro-like interactions that hold the proteins, lipids and RNA in the virus together.
>>
>> Alcohol-based products, which pretty much includes all “disinfectant” products, contain a high-percentage alcohol solution (typically 60-80% ethanol) and kill viruses in a similar fashion. But soap is better because you only need a fairly small amount of soapy water, which, with rubbing, covers your entire hand easily. Whereas you need to literally soak the virus in ethanol for a brief moment, and wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough.
>>
>> So, soap is the best, but do please use alcohol-based sanitiser when soap is not handy or practical.
>>
>> Pall Thordarson is a professor of chemistry at the University of New South Wales, Sydney
>>
>> Don't use alcohol on your eyes and nose.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
