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Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 3:53 pm
by chad
I found some methylcobalamin losanges at the local health food store in 1000microgram dosage. What do you think?
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:43 am
by jimmylegs
sounds fine

Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:21 am
by chad
How would I take them? 1 a day with meals?
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:57 pm
by jimmylegs
just take them in the afternoon rather than in the morning. there's a circadian rhythm to b12 levels. levels are naturally lower in the morning.
that is not to say i know how quickly blood levels rise after a sublingual dose. but i do know when ppl have complained of insomnia in the past, sometimes they might need to back off on the high doses of b12 in the morning. while others might benefit from an evening dose of magnesium.
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:22 pm
by chad
Just so you know, I'm now taking a sublingual B12 with folate. According to "Could It Be B12?" the combination was found to reduce homocysteine better than either B12 or folate taken separately.
Cyano, hydro, or methyl?
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 3:19 pm
by NHE
chad wrote:Just so you know, I'm now taking a sublingual B12 with folate. According to "Could It Be B12?" the combination was found to reduce homocysteine better than either B12 or folate taken separately.
Cyano, hydro, or methyl?
I'm currently taking methylcobalamin. It has 1000 µg. There is also 400 µg folic acid. I recently decided to take 2/day. I've been taking sublingual B12 for 5 weeks now and go in for follow-up testing on the 29th. I will do a three day washout first so that unsaturated B12 binding capacity can be tested. It will be interesting to see if my levels have changed any.
By the way, I've only read about hydroxocobalamin with reference to B12 shots and not the sublingual form.
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:46 pm
by chad
NHE wrote:chad wrote:Just so you know, I'm now taking a sublingual B12 with folate. According to "Could It Be B12?" the combination was found to reduce homocysteine better than either B12 or folate taken separately.
Cyano, hydro, or methyl?
I'm currently taking methylcobalamin. It has 1000 µg. There is also 400 µg folic acid. I recently decided to take 2/day. I've been taking sublingual B12 for 5 weeks now and go in for follow-up testing on the 29th. I will do a three day washout first so that unsaturated B12 binding capacity can be tested. It will be interesting to see if my levels have changed any.
By the way, I've only read about hydroxocobalamin with reference to B12 shots and not the sublingual form.
Do you have a thread that I can keep up with your results?
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:54 am
by jimmylegs
realistically chad if you are thinking of basing any personal decision-making based on NHE's experience, i think you'd want to keep in mind that NHE has been dealing with diagnosed and medicated ms for a very long time. in the early days as you are, and especially as a vegetarian, i should think you could expect a much more noticeable benefit from nutrition therapy (as well as cutting back on the tums

). if you are not in the financial condition to test zinc and magnesium, it won't hurt to try these supplements out

Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 4:20 pm
by chad
I'm still thinking about raw beef liver put into vegetarian capsules

I just like to gather as many perspectives as I possibly can.
I'd like to treat it naturally without synthetic b12 if I can.
On a side note, my mom has heart and brain aneurysms, and I'm reading b12 is a POTENTIAL culprit there too!
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:12 pm
by jimmylegs
liver capsules lol
re aneurysms, i'd look askance at zinc there as well
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:33 pm
by NHE
chad wrote:Do you have a thread that I can keep up with your results?
No. Not at this time.
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:08 pm
by chad
I have found pre packed frozen liver capsules, but I doubt the nutritional value is on par with fresh from the butcher. I could make them like I do my hemp seed oil pills.
Also I live in Washington state, so my fishing opportunities are limitless. I'm thinking river trout as I would like to avoid ocean fish like salmon which are possibly contaminated.
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:26 pm
by jimmylegs
my goodness, do they have a breakdown of nutrient composition per capsule?!
some scientific perspectives re contamination:
Pacific bluefin tuna transport Fukushima-derived radionuclides from Japan to California
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/24/9483.short
Fukushima-derived radionuclides in the ocean and biota off Japan
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/16/5984.short
Elevated airborne beta levels in Pacific/West Coast US States and trends in hypothyroidism among newborns after the Fukushima nuclear meltdown
http://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinfor ... 4O_MvldWt8
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:17 am
by chad
^exactly my concern regarding local seafood. Fuku is a terrible event in so many ways.
I'll look into nutritional values on the frozen pills and post them later on.
Re: are my syptoms Multiple Sclerosis?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:58 am
by jimmylegs
k thx i'll keep an eye out for updates
