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the sooner the better

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:07 pm
by Cece
http://transmedreports.org/index.php/vl ... /view/5400
May symptoms of chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency be improved by venous angioplasty? An independent 4-year follow up on 366 cases

Pietro M. Bavera
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.4081/vl.2015.5400
Pietro M. Bavera
Vascular Surgeon at the University of Milano; Vascular Imaging Diagnostician for Medick-Up Vascular Lab, Milano, Italy |

Abstract
The aim of the study was to collect results from 366 chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency (CCSVI) affected patients that were regularly Duplex controlled after having received vein angioplasty following diagnosis for CCSVI. The procedures were all performed in the same Centre and same equipment. The patients were divided into three groups according to the attributed severity of the associated multiple sclerosis: 264 relapse-remitting (RR) (72%): 179 females (67.8%) and 85 (32.2%) males; 62 secondary progressive (17%): 37 (59.7%) females and 25 (40.3%) males; 40 primary progressive (11%): 22 (55%) females and 18 (45%) males. A data base revealed eleven most frequent disturbs and symptoms, together with working capacities, and was kept up-todate at every Duplex control aiming to establish a novel rapid CCSVI symptoms questionnaire assessment in 4 years follow up. The symptoms were: diplopia, fatigue, headache, upper limb numbness/mobility, lower limb numbness/mobility, thermic sensibility, bladder control, balance coordination, quality of sleep, vertigo, mind concentration.

Results, as follows, appear to be significantly good in the RR group, also the biggest one. Diplopia improved in 262/264 patients (99.2%) (P<0.0001); fatigue in 260/264 (98.5%) (P<0.0001); headache in 205/208 (98.6%) (P<0.0001); balance coordination in 23/26 (88.5%) (P<0.0001); quality of sleep in 55/59 (93.2%) (P<0.0001); vertigo in 30/33 (90.9%) (P<0.0001); mind concentration in 142/144 (98.6%) (P<0.0001). Other results regarded: upper limb numbness and mobility in 20/24 (83.3%) (P=0.0002); lower limb numbness and mobility 13/15 (86.7%) (P=0.0087); thermic sensibility 3/4 (75%) [P: not significant (n.s.)]; bladder control 2/3 (66.6%) (P: n.s.). In contrast in the progressive cases results are quite different where, nevertheless, some useful considerations were collected and statistically significant, too. In addition, venous angioplasty appears to be safe, side effects were observed only in seven patients (0.19%) that grew a monolateral Jugular thrombosis but still were regularly controlled and above all did not suffer worsening of the disease. Finally, the overwhelming percutaneous transluminal angioplasty results in the RR group lead to say that the correct criteria should be the sooner the better.
Four year follow-up, 366 cases, positive improvements. The sooner the better.

Re: the sooner the better

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:52 pm
by David1949
In contrast in the progressive cases results are quite different
The article does not say what the results were for PPMS, just that they are "quite different". This further reinforces my belief that PPMS is not the same disease as RRMS.

Re: the sooner the better

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:06 am
by Cece
I missed that line. "Some useful considerations were collected and statistically significant, too." The full article is available through the link, I don't have time to read it right now but I just opened it up. It does feel accurate that progressive and rr MS behave so differently as diseases, at least until RR becomes SP, that there may be different causes or different body reactions to the same cause.

There's a table in the article breaking down results for SP too. Table 4 is the one to look at for PP. They had 40 PP patients, that seems like a decent number. 264 RR patients and 62 SP.

Re: the sooner the better

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:30 pm
by 1eye
I have never felt any transition into SPMS from RRMS. I have been told by a neurologist that I made the transition as soon as I started using a cane full-time. I use a walker full-time now. I walk slower. But if you count remissions, I had a big one in 2010 long after my supposed transition, coinciding with my CCSVI procedure.

Was I not remitting then, because it was a procedure-induced remission?

I don't believe pwMS are suffering a different disease when they start to use a cane. If you don't believe me, wait until you are so classified.