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The Med-Day biotin study published their full results today.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:20 pm
by CureOrBust
It appears to me that they have "published" their results on the corporate website as used to promote the upcoming commercial product, and not within a respected peer reviewed journal. I also note the following quote "Commenting on the full study results, Prof. Bruce Cree, UCSF, USA, principal investigator in the upcoming US study with MD1003". Its all a little too inbred/advertising for my liking.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:14 am
by renaudjba
22/04/2016
Hello folks.
Je me marre!
Pour une fois que le progrès vient de France,
qu'il est souligné par Pr Bruce Cree (rappelons qu'il n'avait pas disqualifié les LDN),
qu'enfin votre NMSS s'est fendue d'une reconnaissance de MedPay Pharma
dès (... pour ceux qui connaissent le dossier LDN) le 4 mai 2015).
Bienvenue au club. En €uros ou en $.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:24 am
by ton
Pour moi, ce très bien!!!!, partout où il vient si cela chose fonctionne!
Vive la France!!!
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:07 pm
by renaudjba
Thanks, Tom
Let's hope the next and much larger clinical trial
will confirm these results and allow FDA to approve
MD1003.
Let's hope the price won't be too high.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:41 am
by zen2010
Thks tzootsi,
Interesting...it looks like it's more effective for non active progressive MS
Hopefully this treatment will be soon available for all.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:42 am
by tzootsi
Realize that biotin is readily available, there are thousands of people around the world currently taking 300 mg of biotin a day for PPMS. The facebook page is 'Biotin for progressive MS' .
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:37 am
by zen2010
tzootsi wrote:Realize that biotin is readily available, there are thousands of people around the world currently taking 300 mg of biotin a day for PPMS. The facebook page is 'Biotin for progressive MS' .
I'm talking about the Cerenday. Normally, it should be the most effective biotin.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:25 pm
by CureOrBust
tzootsi wrote:Realize that biotin is readily available, there are thousands of people around the world currently taking 300 mg of biotin a day for PPMS. The facebook page is 'Biotin for progressive MS' .
There are seven or so different chiral forms of Biotin with different physiological effects. I have yet to see any details from Cerenday as to which form they are using and have thus tested, and hence the Biotin as used by all of us (including me) outside of the trials, may simply be wrong and totally ineffective.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:22 pm
by Brainteaser
An interview with Frédéric Sedel, MD, PhD and CEO of MedDay by MS Translate.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:23 pm
by zen2010
Thank you a thousand times!
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:56 pm
by CureOrBust
CureOrBust wrote:There are seven or so different chiral forms of Biotin with different physiological effects. I have yet to see any details from Cerenday as to which form they are using and have thus tested, and hence the Biotin as used by all of us (including me) outside of the trials, may simply be wrong and totally ineffective.
Brainteaser wrote:An interview with Frédéric Sedel, MD, PhD and CEO of MedDay by MS Translate.
And thanks to MsTranslate for getting at least that one cleared up. Its D-Biotin, as we have all assumed.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:35 pm
by zen2010
Hi Cure,
According to Frédéric Sedel, it's not any type of D-Biotin.
He says (17'00 from the video):"the difference (with other forms of D-Biotin) is that it's an extra pure pharmaceutical grade biotin - it's what we call GFP Biotin"
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:10 pm
by NHE
zen2010 wrote:According to Frédéric Sedel, it's not any type of D-Biotin.
He says (17'00 from the video):"the difference (with other forms of D-Biotin) is that it's an extra pure pharmaceutical grade biotin - it's what we call GFP Biotin"
Hi Zen,
I think he said GMP biotin. GMP meaning Good Manufacturing Practices which is a common standard used in the supplement industry. Anyways, do to the low sound quality, much of what Frédéric Sedel said was difficult to understand.
Re: The Med-Day biotin study published their full results to
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:16 am
by CureOrBust
zen2010 wrote:According to Frédéric Sedel, it's not any type of D-Biotin.
He says (17'00 from the video):"the difference (with other forms of D-Biotin) is that it's an extra pure pharmaceutical grade biotin - it's what we call GFP Biotin"
I think NHE explained it (ie GMP). My understanding was simply him differentiating between the quality medical product (of which he has a personal financial interest in) and the cheaper bulk powder suppliers people are buying from over the internet; which could potentially contain poisonous impurities. I have been thinking of getting a price from a certified local chem lab to check the biotin I have been supplied. I'm not on facebook, have any groups thought of combining their resources (ie money) to have a supplier checked?
D-Biotin is a very specific form of a specific chemical. D-Biotin IS D-Biotin. However, its whether we can be assured we are getting D-Biotin from the online bulk powder suppliers, and if the impurities are inert or non-toxic.