Many thanks to ThisisMA, now we have references for high levels for Vit D3 (bottom of post).
Vitamin D Toxicity http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vi ... -toxicity/
Also if anyone has any papers on vit D in healthy people living outside that would be very helpful.
Here you go: both the blog and website from the Vitamin D Council are loaded with interesting information about vitamin D, but here's a direct link to an article on their blog that sites studies about the vitamin D levels of indigenous populations "living naturally" which I assume means living primarily outdoors:http://blog.vitamindcouncil.org/2012/08/27/vitamin-d-status-in-indigenous-populations-part-1/
Can too much vitamin D be harmful? Yes, it certainly can - though anything can be toxic in excess, even water. As one of the safest substances known to man, vitamin D toxicity is very rare. In fact, people are at far greater risk of vitamin D deficiency than they are of vitamin D toxicity.
What is vitamin D toxicity?
Vitamin D toxicity is a condition where blood serum concentrations of vitamin D’s storage form, 25(OH)D or calcidiol, become too high, causing adverse systemic effects.
How it happens
There is no risk of vitamin D toxicity due to sun exposure.
Because the body has a built in mechanism for preventing toxicity with vitamin D produced in the skin, there is no risk of vitamin D toxicity due to ultraviolet-B (UVB) exposure - whether from the Sun or a tanning bed.
Supplemental vitamin D bypasses this built-in protection and, if excessive amounts are consumed over a period of time, 25(OH)D blood levels can reach a point where toxicity is possible.
What exactly constitutes a toxic dose of vitamin D has yet to be determined, though it is possible this amount may vary with the individual.
Published cases of toxicity, for which serum levels and dose are known, all involve intake of ≥ 40000 IU (1000 mcg) per day. 1 Two different cases involved intake of over 2,000,000 IU per day - both men survived. 2 3
Serum levels: upper limit and toxicity threshold
Upper limit for a substance is the amount up to which is considered safe and without risk of adverse effects in the majority of the population.
Toxicity threshold for a substance is the amount beyond which over-saturation occurs and symptoms of toxicity manifest.
These values for 25(OH)D are as follows:
•Toxicity threshold level - 200-250 ng/mL (500-750 nmol/L) 4 5 6 7 8
•Upper limit - 100 ng/mL (250 nmol/L)
The large range between 25(OH)D’s upper limit and its threshold value implies a degree of safety at serum levels up to 100 ng/mL (250 nmol/L), since concentrations twice this amount have yet to ever be associated with toxicity. 4
In animal models, serum concentrations have reached as high as 400-700 ng/mL (1,000-1750 nmol/L) before toxic effects (severe hypercalcemia) were observed. 8 9
Symptoms: toxicity and overdose
Signs of vitamin D toxicity are high urine and blood calcium.
The first sign of vitamin D toxicity is hypercalcuria (excess calcium in the urine) followed by hypercalcemia (high blood calcium). The following symptoms may present:
•constipation (possibly alternating with diarrhea)
•tingling sensations in the mouth
•heart rhythm abnormalities
The immediate symptoms of vitamin D overdose are:
What to do if you think you are vitamin D toxic
Vitamin D is not toxic when used in the amounts Nature intended.
It is fairly difficult to become toxic using vitamin D3. If you think you may be toxic because you are having an adverse reaction to vitamin D but you have not been using excessive amounts like those described above, your symptoms could be due to reasons other than toxicity.
Test serum levels
First thing is to stop supplementation, then have your physician help you determine if you are toxic by testing your 25(OH)D levels. This is the same test used to determine vitamin D deficiency.
Rule out other possibilities
If results indicate levels lower than 200-250 ng/mL (500-750 nmol/L), you are most likely not toxic. In this case, the reaction you experienced may be a result of:
1.An underlying magnesium deficiency. This is the most common reason for symptoms brought on by using vitamin D.
2.Vitamin D hypersensitivity due to pre-existing high blood calcium (hypercalcemia). Often mistaken for vitamin D toxicity, hypercalcemia is a rare condition usually caused by one of the following: ◦primary hyperparathyroidism (most common cause)
If toxic, reduce serum levels
If the results show a serum 25(OH)D level of 200-250 ng/mL (500-750 nmol/L) or more, you could be toxic. The following measures should be taken until vitamin D levels return to normal:
1.avoidance of direct sunlight exposure
2.avoidance of foods and supplements containing vitamin D
3.restriction of calcium intake
4.drinking 8 glasses of water daily
Once 25(OH)D levels have normalized, sunlight exposure and/or vitamin D supplementation can be resumed, taking care not to overdo it.
In most cases, vitamin D toxicity can be corrected without lasting problems, provided the body has not remained in a hypercalcemic state for too long. Hypercalcemia has the potential to cause soft tissue calcification, resulting in deposits of calcium crystals in the heart, lungs, and/or kidneys. With prolonged hypercalcemia, permanent damage is possible if calcification is severe enough.
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*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.