Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?

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Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?

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Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?

Postby David1949 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:47 am

Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?
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Re: Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?

Postby euphoniaa » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:17 pm

David1949 wrote:Do your MS symptoms get worse following a big meal?


I have absolutely no idea which of my weird issues/symptoms are due to MS and which are due to my many other medical conditions - or age - anyway. :)

However, I figured out long ago that the less I eat the better I feel (and the more I exercise the better I feel), and I've never thought it had much to do with MS. A lot is probably due to my nasty food reactions, but I think people underestimate the effect the wrong foods in the wrong amounts can have on their lives.

When I started my campaign to eat healthy about 20 years ago (way before my dx), I noticed that I had to contend with actual ridicule :) from co-workers for my spare eating habits (including no lunch at all), no sweets, etc., while they discussed their lunch options around me. Then they'd bitch and moan all afternoon that they felt like crap from eating so much. :)

And in the next sentence they would still make fun of my weird eating habits. Go figure.

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Postby civickiller » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:59 pm

maybe its your body trying to digest all the food, draining your body. just like people get tired after a big meal
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Postby lyndacarol » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:07 pm

David1949 – Just in case you missed it, in my mind, the following hypothesis explains the situation: a heavy meal (especially one filled with carbohydrates – sugar and starch) puts lots of glucose into the bloodstream; the body responds by making lots of insulin; it is this extra insulin that causes damage to the intestines, blood vessels, muscles, even the brain (Insulin can cross the blood-brain barrier.)

Low-carb meals and exercise reduce the amount of insulin in the body.

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Postby zinamaria » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:29 pm

Excellent topic...I definitely feel better when I control portion size or fast. Been juicing lately and that feels great. Our bodies use something like 75% (maybe more) of our energy to digest, hence poor digestion, hence the 'gut' hence lots of havoc being wreaked....

I actually had a colonics today and feel great. The Chinese believe that the seat of health is in the colon and many non-western traditions believe our intelligence is in the 'gut' (intestines).
I feel this is related to CCSVI since I now see that circulation plays such an important role in our health, and exercise and diet affect circulation....

Happy downsizing! (something many Americans could use!)
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Postby PointsNorth » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:44 pm

ALWAYS experience problems with big meals. I will try drinking more water with my meal tonite.
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Postby David1949 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:00 pm

My thought was that the body directs blood flow to where it is needed. After a big meal it directs blood to the digestive system and possibly away from the brain. So if CCSVI is restricting blood flow to the brain then eating a big meal could simply exacerbate the problem.
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Postby zinamaria » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:31 pm

David, this is very interesting about bloodflow and digestion.

Pointsnorth, I highly recommend not drinking water with your meal, about 30 minutes before or after but not during, as water with meal actually blocks digestion...you need those enzymes to digest, so you do not want to drink while eating.
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Postby CureOrBust » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:43 pm

Not so much now, but when I was at my worst a few years ago, I noticed a HUGE difference in my symptoms after a meal. Everything would flare up, tingling etc would go crazy.

I was on Rebif back then and it was far from working for me. I am much better now (on statins and other stuff that works for me), and I really have to concentrate to notice a difference after a meal. But I voted yes to this poll because of the effects I used to feel were so distinct.
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Postby debp » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:46 pm

I feel better after I eat, much better. Am I the only one?

Chocolate is a better analgesic than advil. Something has to be wrong about that.
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Postby Algis » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:48 pm

I fell good after eating too. Not 'better' but just normal 'after eat' status.
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Postby Cece » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:59 am

debp wrote:I feel better after I eat, much better. Am I the only one?

Two of my danger zones are if I've gone too long without eating or if I've just eaten a big meal. It's almost predictable.

It's why I keep researching on glucose as an alternative to oxygen as energy in the brain, production of lactate, ketones, etc.
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Postby PointsNorth » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:15 am

zinamaria wrote:David, this is very interesting about bloodflow and digestion.

Pointsnorth, I highly recommend not drinking water with your meal, about 30 minutes before or after but not during, as water with meal actually blocks digestion...you need those enzymes to digest, so you do not want to drink while eating.


Thanks Zin, I'll avoid Water w. Meals.
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Postby dania » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:19 am

For me, I noticed I am worse if I have a hot/warm meal. If I eat something cold, my condition does not change.
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Postby 1eye » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:42 pm

dania wrote:For me, I noticed I am worse if I have a hot/warm meal. If I eat something cold, my condition does not change.


You win the cupie doll. Digestion generates core heat. Heat rises. If we have trouble ridding ourselves of heat because of endothelium/smooth muscle issues (the stomach lining, I am told, is a smooth muscle) this may result in spasticity/restless legs after a large meal because of the heat of digestion. Add to that the heat of hot food, and you have a surer bet. Happens to me, anyway.

Try some icy water with your hot meal.
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