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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:08 am 
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you may want to consider changing your search engine .... Magdeburg Spheres demonstrates the power of .... a VACUUM ....and also .....surface tension.

To understand CCSVI ..... learn some simple hydraulic principles.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:39 pm 
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Professor Zohara Sternberg of the Jacobs Neurological Institute of Buffalo NY .... has given us something of great value in understanding CCSVI. Please read .... and if you have to .... reread her Abstract listed above . It's that important.

The Abstract is written in true doctor-speak .... so MrSuccess will attempt to explain it in plain talk. :lol:

Professor Sternberg is telling us that once a vein is collapsed - whereby the inner walls of the vein come in contact - they cannot disengage from each other . :idea: :idea: :idea:

I agree.

The reason why : SURFACE TENSION ...... MrSuccess would add to this ... .. a created VACUUM also.

CCSVI is the simple concept of a fluid [ BLOOD ] disrupted from returning back to a fluid pump [ your HEART ] . A circuit - heart to head ->>> head back to heart .... is not normal.

Now let me demonstrate the Power of Surface Tension AND the power of a VACUUM.

First: Surface Tension. The most easy example I can give you is the adhesive quality's of two EQUALLY smooth pieces of glass. Slightly moisten both pieces ..... now SLIDE them together .... so that they are exactly one on top of the other . Now try to PULL them apart.

Second : The Power of a VACUUM . Mr.Success offers the " Magdeburg Spheres ".

Professor Sternberg tells us something VERY IMPORTANT .... and that is this .... in the condition CCSVI ..... your heart - a simple diaphram pump - CANNOT create enough fluid FORCE to overcome the collapsed veins .

MrSuccess asks ..... Is CCSVI perhaps truly .....a HEART CONDITION ? :?: :idea:

Is the heart now creating a VACUUM in the vein returning blood from the brain to the heart ? :?: :idea:

DO NOT underestimate the power of surface tension or a vacuum . Dr. Sternberg clearly understands this.


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i would disagree with the statements that once vein walls touch they cannot separate. i see it all the time, where veins collapse and then expand. it is a natural phenomenon.

it is most apparent in patients who have compression stenoses, such as at the skull base, at C1-2, in J2 with muscle compressions, with the may thurner syndrome and the nutcracker phenomenon. it is clearly proven by viewing the vein in IVUS

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:58 pm 
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There was discussion of HRV or heart-rate variability that Dr. Arata measures earlier in this thread. This is said to be a measurement of autonomic dysfunction.

If you have an iphone and money to waste ($300, which is too much for me to try it), there is an app that measures HRV.
http://www.bioforcehrv.com/
Maybe tracking HRV over time would help us improve our HRV.

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One of the best things about HRV is that it’s an incredibly simple and non-invasive test. All you will have to do is stay in a stable, resting position for 2:30 while the BioForce HRV records the intervals between your heart beats. You can even do it while laying in bed in the morning.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:04 am 
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Hi Dr.S - You are the "inside guy " :wink: when it comes to CCSVI. It appears there may be some growth in this area [ IVUS ] with other professionals now using it.

I remain enthralled with Professor Zamboni's great discovery.

IVUS , if I understand it correctly , actually FORCES open collapsed veins as it is guided through pwMS . I suppose webs and flaps and other inner workings .... get plowed through also .

Here is what I don't get .... upon REMOVAL of the IVUS ...... How do you know for sure that the vein has not immediatley returned to a full or partial closure ?

Stents appear to be the solution . However , their composition [ metal ] seems to be the devil in the details ...... the body wants to reject them ..... hence a lifetime on drugs ...

Q : Do you think it possible that stents can be produced using ones own body parts ? I threw this suggestion out a few years ago , that something like the plaque on our teeth could be removed , moulded into stents , and then used in veins. :idea: :idea:

As it is already naturally produced in your body ....... rejection should not be an isssue ? :idea: :?: Nice little tubes of natures own concrete ..... :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:23 am 
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drsclafani wrote:
MrSuccess wrote:
Professor Zohara Sternberg of the Jacobs Neurological Institute of Buffalo NY .... has given us something of great value in understanding CCSVI. Please read .... and if you have to .... reread her Abstract listed above . It's that important.

The Abstract is written in true doctor-speak .... so MrSuccess will attempt to explain it in plain talk. :lol:

Professor Sternberg is telling us that once a vein is collapsed - whereby the inner walls of the vein come in contact - they cannot disengage from each other . :idea: :idea: :idea:

I agree.

The reason why : SURFACE TENSION ...... MrSuccess would add to this ... .. a created VACUUM also.

CCSVI is the simple concept of a fluid [ BLOOD ] disrupted from returning back to a fluid pump [ your HEART ] . A circuit - heart to head ->>> head back to heart .... is not normal.

Now let me demonstrate the Power of Surface Tension AND the power of a VACUUM.

First: Surface Tension. The most easy example I can give you is the adhesive quality's of two EQUALLY smooth pieces of glass. Slightly moisten both pieces ..... now SLIDE them together .... so that they are exactly one on top of the other . Now try to PULL them apart.

Second : The Power of a VACUUM . Mr.Success offers the " Magdeburg Spheres ".

Professor Sternberg tells us something VERY IMPORTANT .... and that is this .... in the condition CCSVI ..... your heart - a simple diaphram pump - CANNOT create enough fluid FORCE to overcome the collapsed veins .

MrSuccess asks ..... Is CCSVI perhaps truly .....a HEART CONDITION ? :?: :idea:

Is the heart now creating a VACUUM in the vein returning blood from the brain to the heart ? :?: :idea:

DO NOT underestimate the power of surface tension or a vacuum . Dr. Sternberg clearly understands this.


MrSuccess


MrSuccess
i would disagree with the statements that once vein walls touch they cannot separate. i see it all the time, where veins collapse and then expand. it is a natural phenomenon.

it is most apparent in patients who have compression stenoses, such as at the skull base, at C1-2, in J2 with muscle compressions, with the may thurner syndrome and the nutcracker phenomenon. it is clearly proven by viewing the vein in IVUS

DrS


Pardon me, i think glasses and veins are made from different materials. Won't they have a different surface tension?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:24 pm 
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MrSuccess wrote:
Hi Dr.S - You are the "inside guy " :wink: when it comes to CCSVI. It appears there may be some growth in this area [ IVUS ] with other professionals now using it.

IVUS , if I understand it correctly , actually FORCES open collapsed veins as it is guided through pwMS . I suppose webs and flaps and other inner workings .... get plowed through also .

Here is what I don't get .... upon REMOVAL of the IVUS ...... How do you know for sure that the vein has not immediatley returned to a full or partial closure ?

Stents appear to be the solution . However , their composition [ metal ] seems to be the devil in the details ...... the body wants to reject them ..... hence a lifetime on drugs ...

Q : Do you think it possible that stents can be produced using ones own body parts ? I threw this suggestion out a few years ago , that something like the plaque on our teeth could be removed , moulded into stents , and then used in veins. :idea: :idea:

As it is already naturally produced in your body ....... rejection should not be an isssue ? :idea: :?: Nice little tubes of natures own concrete ..... :wink:

MrSuccess


OUCH

success, IVUS is a very small probe that likely pushes nothing out of the way. It is not a therapeutic device at all. i simply sends high frequency sound waves that reflect off inner tissue and allow visualization of the valves within the vein. it is real time so you get a nice view of the valve motion.

we exchange the diagnostic catheter with the IVUS, then exchange that with the balloon catheter, then we exchange that for the IVUS then the IVUS for the diagnostic catheter. So after balloon angioplasty we use IVUS to see the work of the angioplasty. Any what we see with a successful treatment is nothing. The valve is stretched and not well seen in most cases.

plaque is composed of oral contect including not nice things that i would not want inside my mouth, let alone in my blood vessels.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I need an "I <3 IVUS" t-shirt :)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14504339
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Neurology. 2003 Sep 23;61(6):851-3.
Fatigue in MS is related to sympathetic vasomotor dysfunction.
Flachenecker P, Rufer A, Bihler I, Hippel C, Reiners K, Toyka KV, Kesselring J.
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Department of Neurology, Julius-Maximilians-Universität, Würzburg, Germany.
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The authors studied standard autonomic function tests and measures of heart rate variability in 60 patients with multiple sclerosis (MS) and correlated results with the Fatigue Severity Scale and the Modified Fatigue Impact Scale. The authors found that autonomic responses correlated with fatigue resembling a hypoadrenergic orthostatic response, possibly due to a sympathetic vasomotor lesion with intact vagal heart control. Treatments to control sympathetic dysfunction for MS-associated fatigue deserve further study.

Has this been posted recently? It was briefly discussed in Dr. Beggs ISNVD abstract 2011: chronic-cerebrospinal-venous-insufficiency-ccsvi-f40/topic15917.html#p157459 Anyway there is support for the correlation between autonomic dysfunction and fatigue in MS. And for the use of the HRV test in MS patients. I would like to see the HRV test included in a randomized controlled treatment trial because it is an objective measure.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:04 pm 
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17503142
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Autonomic dysfunction in Guillain-Barré syndrome and multiple sclerosis.
Flachenecker P.
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Neurological Rehabilitation Center "Quellenhof", Kuranlagenallee 2, 75323, Bad Wildbad, Germany.
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J Neurol. 2008 Feb;255(2):309-10.
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This review gives an overview of autonomic dysfunction encountered in Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) and multiple sclerosis (MS). In GBS, cardiovascular dysregulation is common and may lead to serious bradyarrhythmias that need to be recognised for the early initiation of appropriate therapy. Although standardised autonomic tests were useful for the diagnosis of autonomic failure, they were not able to indicate vagal over-reactivity. In this regard, eyeball pressure testing may correctly identify patients at risk for impending and potentially life-threatening bradyarrhythmias which may easily be administered at the bedside. In MS, cardiovascular autonomic dysfunction is usually of minor clinical importance. However, orthostatic intolerance may be present in approximately 50% of patients and could easily be detected by routine measurements of heart rate and blood pressure during rest and during standing. More subtle alterations may require more sophisticated methods such as autonomic reflex testing or baroreflex stimulation. Several in vitro, animal and clinical studies provide evidence that there are many interactions between the sympathetic nervous system and the immune system giving rise to the hypothesis that autonomic dysfunction in MS may not only be a consequence of the disease, but may in itself affect the course of MS.

Dr. Flachenecker is a German neurologist who has done some good work on autonomic dysfunction in MS.
If autonomic dysfunction affects the course of MS and if autonomic dysfunction is improved by CCSVI venoplasty, then this supports the reasoning that the course of MS may be improved by CCSVI venoplasty.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:53 pm 
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Cureious as to what drug us stentoteers are supposed to be on "for life". Must have missed that in the post-op handout. Please advise.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:27 am 
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Some people end up on long-term plavix or aspirin or stronger anticoagulants if their stents develop clots. I am not sure if it is for life, though.

In case anyone is wondering if Dr. Arata continues to balloon unobstructed veins, the answer is yes. On facebook, he recently answered the question, "Is re-stenosis less frequent in non MS patients?" by saying that stenosis of a vein is uncommon in this condition therefore re-stenosis is also. Relapse is a more accurate descriptor. The treatment, and any chance of relapse, appear independent of associated conditions. Based on [his] observations.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:56 pm 
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CI - not sure of your intent , sport. I do my best to read all posts here at TIMS. Even ones written with "scattered in all direction short thoughts". Must be the MS ..... I often thought.

Anyway ..... I get my CCSVI information reading posts here at TIMS , written by incredibly bright and articulate people. Including those brave enough to subject themselves to uncharted medical territory.First hand information.

To the best of my knowledge ..... stents require medication ..... as the body's immune system see's metal stents, as foreign. I guess this situation does not apply to you. That's great news.

Thanks for correcting me.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:43 am 
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Sigh. Do pray tell and point me to the variety of posters Mr Success, that both indicate they
A. Have venous stents
And
B. have stated they are on LIFETIME medication requiring prescription.

And that it is due to specifically having stents, and not as a part of any blood cloagulation disorder.

There, matched the coyness, have a nice day.

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