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Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research shows

Postby MSUK » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:41 am

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Researchers at the University of Toronto have found an explanation for how the intestinal tract influences a key component of the immune system to prevent infection, offering a potential clue to the cause of autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis and multiple sclerosis.

"The findings shed light on the complex balance between beneficial and harmful bacteria in the gut," said Prof. Jennifer Gommerman, an Associate Professor in the Department of Immunology at U of T, whose findings were published online by the scientific journal, Nature. "There has been a long-standing mystery of how certain cells can differentiate between and attack harmful bacteria in the intestine without damaging beneficial bacteria and other necessary cells. Our research is working to solve it." ... Read More - http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseact ... ageid/1100
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Postby HarryZ » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:31 am

Researchers at the University of Toronto have found an explanation for how the intestinal tract influences a key component of the immune system to prevent infection, offering a potential clue to the cause of autoimmune disorders like rheumatoid arthritis and multiple sclerosis.


Nothing personal Squiff but I didn't realize that MS had been proven to be an autoimmune disease. Despite this uncertainty, some people in the medical field are determined to fit MS into this category.

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Postby MSUK » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:04 am

Hi Harry, we at MSRC report all the MS news, without prejudice, as is written.

The jury is still out (and will be for some considerable time, probably) on the cause/s of MS.
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby HarryZ » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:16 am

squiffy2 wrote:Hi Harry, we at MSRC report all the MS news, without prejudice, as is written.

The jury is still out (and will be for some considerable time, probably) on the cause/s of MS.


Hi Squiff,

Yes, I realize that and is why I said "nothing personal". One has to report all sides to be fair.

I was just pointing out that some research articles continue to make the statement that it is a foregone conclusion of MS being an autoimmune disease. These people should know better when making these comments since like you said, the jury is still out.

Take care.

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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby CVfactor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:08 am

Likewise, I think we can all agree that global warming is unproven since 0.1% of scientists working in this field say it is not real.
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby HarryZ » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:55 am

CVfactor wrote:Likewise, I think we can all agree that global warming is unproven since 0.1% of scientists working in this field say it is not real.


It's normally not a good idea to confuse science with theory or wishful thinking, especially when it comes to talking about MS.

In the words of Bertand Russell....the fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatsoever that it is not utterly absurd: indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.

But hey, let's not hijack Squiffy's info thread. If you want to continue our discussion, please PM me.

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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby CVfactor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:53 pm

No thanks. Debating with the ignorant is a fruitless endeavor.
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Postby Vikingquest » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:51 pm

You may call it a fruitless endeavor, but there are many plums on this site willing to fly in the face of accepted science.
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby HarryZ » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:07 pm

CVfactor wrote:No thanks. Debating with the ignorant is a fruitless endeavor.


Be very careful CV....you are treading on breaking the rules of this forum with comments like that.

If you can't debate your opinions in public or private in a civilized manner, then perhaps you shouldn't be participating here. Emphasis is placed on sharing ideas on ThisIsMS..not in trashing others. Opinions like you have expressed are likely why 70 years of research in MS haven't even been able to determine a cause for the disease let alone anything remotely resembling a decent treatment.

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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby CVfactor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:24 pm

Harry,

No insult intended. Ignorant is just an adjective used to describe a certain type of person.

From Websters

Ignorant: resulting from or showing a lack of knowledge
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby HarryZ » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:34 pm

CVfactor wrote:Harry,

No insult intended. Ignorant is just an adjective used to describe a certain type of person.

From Websters

Ignorant: resulting from or showing a lack of knowledge


CV...I think we know what your intention was...Harry
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby CVfactor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:40 pm

Harry,

Every time I read your posts, it seems you just to say over and over again how science has failed us and MS is not an automimune disease.

On the other hand, I have started many threads in support of fact the MS is autoimmune in nature. In my view I have provided a wealth of information with links to the supporting research.

What have you done?

Why don't you start a thread about how MS is not autoimmune and provide the supporting research. Maybe you could start it in the CCSVI forum. Otherwise, I have to assume you are ignorant.
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Re: Intestine crucial to function of immune cells research s

Postby HarryZ » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:57 pm

CVfactor wrote:Harry,

Every time I read your posts, it seems you just to say over and over again how science has failed us and MS is not an automimune disease.


You obviously aren't reading all of my posts. What I have said is that the researchers have not provided proof that MS is an autoimmune disease and it is a theory like other theories involving this disease. And it's not only me saying this but some MS researchers as well.

On the other hand, I have started many threads in support of fact the MS is autoimmune in nature. In my view I have provided a wealth of information with links to the supporting research.

What have you done?


Like I said, you obviously have not read all of my posts and while MS has some relation to the autoimmune system, that is a far cry from saying this is proof that it is an autoimmune disease.

Why don't you start a thread about how MS is not autoimmune and provide the supporting research. Maybe you could start it in the CCSVI forum. Otherwise, I have to assume you are ignorant.


Please don't try and trash me, CV....you are doing so with the wrong person. I'm not about to hijack this thread from Squiff's original post and if you want to debate this with me further, please PM me and we can continue.

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