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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:09 pm 
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Why do y'all think about the theory that it's an weak immune system going wacky that is the culprit in this and other auto immune disease?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:16 pm 
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My opinion is "overactive."

In an attempt to be be concise, I was misleading in what I said. I do not believe that MS is an autoimmune disease. In fact, I am not completely convinced that it is neurological. I think it starts from excess insulin in the bloodstream, causing vascular damage first (as you all know). Our individual aspect comes in the form of "Why does each pancreas produce too much insulin?" I think my answer lies in my lifetime of a diet of too many carbs and constant sinus drainage.


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Mine is neither. I think it is after something. Our myelin, etc, just a casualty of war. I reserve the right to change my mind, though.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:26 pm 
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I don't think that MS is an auto-immune disease...period. I believe that there is some other mechanism going on in the body that causes the myelin to degenerate resulting in inflammation. The immune system is simply reacting to this inflammation with more damage being caused.

Of course I can't prove this. Then again, they haven't been able to prove that MS is an auto-immune disease either!!

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both and overcompensating, like using a sledgehammer on a fly


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That fly had it coming!


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I like what you said Harry.... I just can't wrap my mind around all these drugs that basically destroy the immune system. It seems counter intuitive to the way we are designed.

Also is it me or does it seem like MS diagnosis is on the up swing. Everyone I run into seems to have MS somewhere in their lives via themselves or family/friends.

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Also is it me or does it seem like MS diagnosis is on the up swing. Everyone I run into seems to have MS somewhere in their lives via themselves or family/friends.


The diagnosis is on the upswing because they are getting much better at interpreting the test results these days. In the past, they would wait for another attack to take place but now the docs are more likely to come up with a definite diagnosis.

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HarryZ wrote:
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Also is it me or does it seem like MS diagnosis is on the up swing. Everyone I run into seems to have MS somewhere in their lives via themselves or family/friends.


The diagnosis is on the upswing because they are getting much better at interpreting the test results these days. In the past, they would wait for another attack to take place but now the docs are more likely to come up with a definite diagnosis.

Harry


Also, I think more people are not accepting the too frequent diagnosis of being "stressed or anxious or looney" and are becoming more involved in their personal health care.

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so your feeling isn't that it is more prevalent today..... just better diagnostics.

From my observation I have worked in a Dr.'s office for the last 20 years in a small town. For many years we didn't have 1 patient with MS, then we had 1, a woman. Now we have 6 all diagnosed in the last few months! They all go to specialists at Oregon Health Science University except for one that is going 100 % alternative route.

Then my boyfriends brother, my boyfriend and their step sister are all diagnosed within months by MRI and symptoms.

The brother has PPMS and in a short time has lost his job and can barely walk.

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