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Postby fightingms » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:37 am

I read here, can't remember what thread, about someone trying Linoleic Acid. Here is a link where I purchase this online, as well as Co enzyme Q10. I also use Sublingual B12, Grape seed extract, and Coral Calcium with added vitamins.

It is cheaper here than in my Pharmacy....

What are other Vitamins and minerals that we as MSers use, and how do they help us?? ... ode=PH149n
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Postby VirtuallyFine » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:03 pm

I swear by my Potassium supplements (50 mg before bed every night)...I have not had my horrible leg cramps since I started...and vit C and more vit c....and all the omega 3's - I try to get as much as possible from food though rather than supplements...
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> March 20, 2004 = one on alertec = getting my life back? *grin*
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Postby dawny » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:11 am

I use OPC it is for the immune system, B-12, fish oil, coral calcuim, multivitamin. Dawn
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Postby dutchchic » Tue May 18, 2004 4:29 pm

Oh - so many! I take supplement flax seed oil (Omega 3 fats which produce anti-inflammatory hormones), calcium+vitamin D, B-vitamins (good for the nervous system), turmeric (anti-viral and anti-inflammatory), and two mixes from New Chapter - one called Neurozyme which prevents inflammation and helps with memory problems, and another called MycoMend, which is a mix of anti-inflammatory mushrooms. Half of the battle is just preventing inflammation.
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Postby msinterest » Fri Jun 25, 2004 6:53 pm


I haven't got MS but am very interested in the pathophysiology of the disease. I think Vitamin D is a tremendously important supplement to take along with calcium (these acts synergistically). I think 800mg of calcium and 800IU of vitamin D is pretty good, having done some reading. Certainly changing the balance of oil intake also helps. Reduce animal fat and other saturated fats to a bare minimum, cooking everything in olive oil or sunflower oil. Use a minimum of butter. Supplement your diet with lots of cod-liver oil and flaxseed oil since these are remarkably anti-inflammatory.


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Postby Shayk » Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:38 pm


This is extremely informative and very much appreciated.

I recently found, among all my info about MS and hormones, information about an "immunity research project" at the University of Missouri-Columbia. The study is entitled Phytoestrogens and the Innate Immunity in ER-Deficient Mice (ER = estrogen)

The goal of this proposal is to determine the range and mechanism(s) of action of phytoestrogens (genistein, daidzein and soy extracts) on innate immune function via estrogen receptor-dependent and independent pathways.....Our hypothesis is that phytoestrogen signaling via the ER-alpha and/or ER-beta receptors is an important positive regulator of innate macrophage and NK cell function

They proposed to use 2 murine models of bacterial inflammation, mycobacterial which they say is an intracellular pathogen and Helicobacter hepaticus, which is an extracellular pathogen.

Of course, I can't make heads or tails out of this last bit but thought it might mean something to you given your educational background.

Anyway, the basic objectives of the study are to determine the effects of loss of ER alpha, ER beta, and ER alpha and beta signaling on bacterial-induced inflammation.

Now, my question. Since I believe there is emerging information that the ER alpha may be neuroprotective in MS, and since this study leads me to believe there may be "natural", for lack of a better word, sources of this,

a) Is that true? and, if so b) What are some natural sources that contain genistein, daidzein? c) Which sources contain ER-alpha, and d) What might be some of the pros and cons of adding them to one's regimen?

The info I got originally that I'm citing from was from

Of course, it's also interesting that they're studying "bacterial-induced inflammation" in the immune system, macrophages and NK cell function, but that's for another thread I think.

Thanks for any light you or someone else can shed just on sources of this ER-alpha that might be right around the corner somewhere. :)

Take care

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Postby DawnsBrain » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:02 pm

This is a great thread! It has been one of those when you feel you least need to read it or hear it is when you truly need to.

I think I am coming out of some of the inital shock of my dx and have found a peaceful enough place(for now)to start looking at what "I" can possibly do to help my body. Always have been a very physically active person and the fatigue is getting the best of me.

Thank all of you for the thread and I hope it continues b/c I find it very informative.
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