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Re: Vit D

Postby CureOrBust » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:04 am

Lyon wrote:Would that be in addition to the 10% of my net income that I already donate to thisisms?
Your a slippery one, 10% of nothing...
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Postby Lyon » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:38 pm

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Postby BioDocFL » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:53 pm

Vitamin D deficiency is becoming a concern. Article in USAToday.

'Vitamin D tests soar as deficiency, diseases linked'

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-13-vitamin-d-tests_N.htm
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Postby Jaded » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:03 pm

jimmy

In answer to your question........ perhaps the african americans are more deficient as their skin pigmenation means they need more sun? And therefore once they move away from their natural environment (for want of a better term) they suffer a big loss in vit d provided by the lower sunlight levels. If that makes sense....??!!

My origin is meditterranean and my folks moved to the uk years ago so the same could apply to me, albeit at a comparatively lower rate.

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Postby Lyon » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:09 pm

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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:37 pm

i think people have different genetic disease islands that stick out when our nutrient waters recede. some small percent have the ms island, some have cancer island, some have 'more susceptible to toxins and/or infectious disease' island, etc. and the more kinds of imbalances you have, the more islands show up. which is why a deficiency of one thing in a large population can have a variety of resulting health effects. i don't think there's ever going to be one answer that addresses every single case of ms, and i don't think vitamin d deficiency would make everyone have ms. a human being is a pretty complicated system, there are too many variables to get it down to one. too reductionist to think otherwise, i reckon.
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Postby DIM » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:53 pm

Cheer there are some proteins called heat sock proteins.
They regulate partly the way fatique comes and affect the body some hours after meals usualy with high ambients so if MSers eat frequently foods that contain them they are more prone to fatique in hot climates than other people, by the way bread is a big source of those proteins.
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Postby Jaded » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:53 pm

I'm sure it's not just vitamin D deficiency. I agree it's a mix of things.

With the neuroprotection that vit D offfers lacking, this is just one component of the slippery slope.
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Postby cheerleader » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:37 pm

Thank you for the tip, Dim-
Hope all is well for you and your wife in Greece.
You mean "heat shock proteins"... I'm learning about them.

http://www.antigenics.com/products/tech/hsp/

"Heat shock proteins (HSPs), also called stress proteins, are a group of proteins that are present in all cells in all life forms. They are induced when a cell undergoes various types of environmental stresses like heat, cold and oxygen deprivation."

The weather is quite warm in southern California now, and Jeff feels the fatigue most in the afternoon, after working for several hours. He takes a short "siesta" and feels better, but he wold love to get his energy levels up. He doesn't eat any bread or gluten and wheat products at all. He eats mostly fish, eggs, salads, veggies, fruits, nuts and chicken.

Keeping him cool seems to help a bit-
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vit d2 vs vid d3

Postby HUTTO » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:05 pm

just wanted some thoughts.. i recently had my neuro run the vit d level..it came back low..i take about 2000-3000iu daily of vit d3 and 4000iu in the winter. my neuro wants to put me on vit d2 50,000iu a week bill..should i agree to this or is there any real difference?? thanks for responding in advanced.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:55 pm

what was your low number again? 50s? 60? 70s?
and this was after taking good-sounding dailies for how many months/years?
d2 is fine if you're a plant. getting 50,000IU d2 in pill form is pretty easy which may be why you're getting that suggestion.
d3 form is what human skin makes when exposed to sunlight. in my experience, d3 is available in an extremely potent liquid form with a three month shelf life. you eke a drop out of a syringe and that's your 50,000 for the day (or in your case it would be week).
i am quite interested to hear how many weeks this script of 50,000iu lasts for, and what the plan and timing for followup testing might be.
cheers :)
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Postby HUTTO » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:28 pm

legs they didn't tell me..this was over email. the nurse said that i was a bit low. i haven't got the script yet so i will keep you posted. i asked for d 3 if available but i dont think i will get it. i want the d 3 and not d 2 but we will see..i will post when i find out.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:01 pm

k good luck H :)
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Postby Loriyas » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:59 pm

For what it is worth, I also was prescribed vitamin D at 50,000 IU per week by the neurologist at Vanderbilt. He told me to have my levels checked, which I did. My GP told me that the levels were somewhat low and that he had no problem with 50,000 IU per week. But I stupidly forgot to ask what the levels actually were. I'll check on that tomorrow. But my point is that it is becoming more common to prescribe vitamin D (for many diseases/ailments including MS)
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Postby HUTTO » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:05 pm

hey lori..yeah i saw moses at vandy..apparently thats what they do..i just sent an email to see what my levels were.
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