This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

Welcome to the world's leading forum on Multiple Sclerosis research, support, and knowledge. For over 10 years, This is MS has provided an unbiased community dedicated to Multiple Sclerosis patients, caregivers, and affected loved ones.
It is currently Sat May 18, 2013 3:51 pm


All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:55 am 
Offline
Family Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:00 pm
Posts: 29
Location: Holland
Hi, I am just wondering of anybody is using or has considered using Esperanza Petide. They claim all sorts of benefits ofcourse but is it worth its money ? :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:51 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:00 pm
Posts: 1363
Location: London
Hi there,

I considered this treatment but heard very mixed reviews from a UK magazine called MSRC. I think it could easily be a scam. :?

_________________
3 years antibiotics, 06/09 bilateral jug stents at C1, 05/11 ballooning of both jug valves, 07/12 stenting of renal vein, azygos & jug valve ballooning,


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:43 am 
Offline
Family Elder
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:00 pm
Posts: 2197
Location: Dayton, Ohio USA
With 100% testimonial as their only 'evidence' I find it highly unlikely this is anything but a scam.

_________________
http://myhopefuljourneyintoactualmsreco ... ogspot.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:47 am 
Offline
Volunteer Moderator

Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:00 pm
Posts: 7607
the "literature" http://www.esperanzapeptide.net/news.php#RSM
an actual study:
http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/61/4/528
cobratoxin? really??


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:07 pm 
Offline
Volunteer Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 4:00 pm
Posts: 2701
While I have personal suspicions regarding the efficacy of the esperanza peptide, research on the effects of the different components of various venoms is a legitimate field of research. A while back, the show Nature on PBS ran an episode titled The Venom Cure that discussed some of the current research in this area.

In addition, the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center is using a component of scorpion toxin, chlorotoxin, as a probe for cancer cells.

NHE


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:39 am 
Offline
Newbie
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:00 pm
Posts: 5
Agree NHE, snake (and other) venoms are a rich source of potentially new and interesting treatments, especially in the nervous system (after all one of the primary functions of snake venom is to stop prey from escaping so they usually act on muscles and/or nervous system).

jimmylegs, you really got me going with the link to an actual study! I was really keen to read it and then saw the abstract!
Quote:
Oral modified cobratoxin was assessed in a double-blind, randomized, crossover study of eight patients. Treatment was well tolerated. There were no significant improvements with therapy. The authors do not confirm previous anecdotal reports of dramatic improvement with modified cobratoxin.


A randomised study of a massive sample of 8 patients (i.e. presumably 4 were given the drug and 4 the placebo, and these were then later 'crossed over' to the other treatment). Not exactly overwhelming evidence is it? Even if they had found anything interesting. :lol:

Personally I'd be shocked if this Esperanza peptide was anything BUT a scam.

Hey ho. The search continues.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: