CD34+ versus MSC's (Mesenchymal Stem Cells)

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CD34+ versus MSC's (Mesenchymal Stem Cells)

Postby chilli123 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:18 pm

Does anyone know the difference between stem cell procedures that isolate CD34+ cells versus Mesenchymal Stromal Cells (MSC's):
Israel and Costa Rica treatments seem to isolate MSC's whereas the clinic in Germany isolates CD34+ stem cells before placing them back in. It seems like there is positive research and positive anecdotal responses to both. Any information would be helpful.

Also, it seems the MSC's can come from fat/bone marrow/and umbilical cords whereas the CD34+ come from the bone marrow. Beyond that, I am not sure.

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Postby radeck » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:12 am

I'd ask the German and Costa Rican/Chinese clinics this exact question. Makes them aware of the competition and hopefully leads to more transparency (lack thereof is one of the reasons why neurologists in the US and Europe don't take these institutes very seriously)>
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Postby carolew » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:21 am

I asked the neurosurgeon in Germany, how they did isolate the CD34+ cells and he answered ' Top Secret' . That is all he said...I wonder if he just relyed on the machine and believed blindly in his scientific approach. I will never know and I just hope that there is a bit of truth to it all.
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Postby BEZALEL » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:18 pm

maybe you can check with a neurologist in israel abt. what the difference is between MSC's and CD34+. there is the neuro from hadassah hospital, who performed last year the stem cell procedure on a canadian lady, who did well, after staying also 8 months in israel being treated. here is the info:

Prof. Dimitrios Karussis
Department of Neurology
Hadassah Medical Organization
Kiryat Hadassah, Jerusalem 91120 ,Israel
e-mail: ... itrios.htm

i hope they will be more open minded and don't say it is a secret.....let me know the outcome.... :)
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Postby mtf » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:52 am

As far as I know, in Germany they only transplant the stem cells we have in our bone marrow. In Israel they st grow the cells they took from the bone marrow before the transplant.

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Postby BEZALEL » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:35 pm

i guess we find out more, once the trials are done, and there will be more explanation......
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