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Very interesting, thank you for posting this!

this fits in the broader picture, see general-discussion-f1/topic15188-315.html
my posting of Apr 20, 2012 8:20 am which refers to the same cases..

I have always wondered if the benefit that an MS patient may experience undergoing antibiotic treatment (e.g., Combined Antibiotic Protocol of Stratton/Wheldon, et al.) is due, in some part, to the alteration of the gut microbiome.

perhaps antibiotics can help change the gut microbiota.
but it is Metformin that changes the gut microbiota and that fits the broader picture, also in its relation to diabetes 2
see my postings on general-discussion-f1/topic15188-330.html

Perhaps antibiotics, or FMT are usefull to remove persistant bad bacteria, but the first step is nutrition, the gut microbiome depends on a long term dietary pattern.
http://learningenglish.voanews.com/cont ... 15312.html

I’ve met doctors for whom MS is not a mystery and realized that they are numerous. Leaky gut is well known since many years. What is tragic is that the world of neurology does not admit it yet. But it’s coming...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcVatbzH ... ure=relmfu
(I'm not conviced that parasite eggs are necessary if we have a good nutrition, except for the MS business)

I deteriorated significantly after taking a powerful probiotic supplement... I wonder what is in a fecal microbiotic transplantation?!

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3 years antibiotics, 06/09 bilateral jug stents at C1, 05/11 ballooning of both jug valves, 07/12 stenting of renal vein, azygos & jug valve ballooning,

Either the supplements did nothing to you and it was the normal course of the desease, or it has done something and your immune system has overreact.
I guess FMT is like putting an entire healthy microbiome directly in the gut, and that probiotics pills are made of only 1(perhaps several) type of bacteria. It must take time to the microbiome to become healthy with diet and help of probiotics.
Once I had tested 3 pills of probiotics instead of 1. I felt really bad for two days, but no new MS symptoms.

At the time of taking this multi probiotic which was a super American mega probiotic I got terrible stomach aches and my walking deteriorated a lot but transiently. I stopped the probiotic and I improved quite a bit. I'm obviously a bit wary of probiotics now. Perhaps only certain probiotics should be used...

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3 years antibiotics, 06/09 bilateral jug stents at C1, 05/11 ballooning of both jug valves, 07/12 stenting of renal vein, azygos & jug valve ballooning,

You should find a more balanced dosage. Probiotics shouldn’t be harmfull in moderation. MS is a long term process.

It is a very interesting article. Has anyone seen other findings on fecal microbiota transplantation? If it is so succesful I would wonder that others also completed such procedures.

Are there doctors in Europe who do this procedure? What are the potential risks of it?

Thanks,
Lib

*Bump*

I would also like to know of any doctor offering this treatment in Europe..

It’s not a treatment.
It has been experimented for people with gastrointestinal problem and for people who have also MS, it has create unexpected positiv results. It’s very simple and safe apart that this is disgusting. But there is other less disgusting way to change the gut microbiota (see nutrition), but don't expect immediate results.

Actually it is being offered as a treatment here in Portland, Oregon for a variety of diseases. Here's the link if you're interested in coming over here and having it done: http://fecalmicrobiotatransplantation.com/FMT/home.html

Thank you, cervocuit and Merlin.

What I saw with that three patients seems very promising, at least it would merit further actions. And it does not belong to FDA jurisdiction, which is really good. It would be good if there were more documented cases where the transplantation helped. I would have assumed that there would be more cases than these three.

As for nutrition, do you mean probiotics? It is interesting that my neurologist said that I can eat anything I want, but another neurologist said that I should avoid probiotics.