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robbie · Post by **robbie** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:41 am

try anything you can before mj arti you don't want to make your ms worse, or just try it and see for yourself if it helps it's a tough one. lol

robbie · Post by **robbie** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:53 am

for arti

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:54 am

I have smoked (when I was younger) and always enjoyed it, but got kinda paranoid after-wards, LOL. I would smoke crack if it would cure my ms, jk.
Thanks for the input !!!arti

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:54 am

thanks

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:15 am

Texas state laws for marijuana use vary depending on the amount.

For possession of 2oz. or less

* Class B misdemeanor

* 180 days in jail

* Maximum fine of $2,100 or both.

More than 2oz. and up to 4 oz.

*Class a misdemeanor

*Up to one year in a jail

*$4,000 fine or both.

Over 4oz. and up to 5lbs.

*Felony in State jail

*No less than 6 months and no more than 2 years in jail

*Up to $10,000 fine

Anything over 5lbs and up to 50lbs.

*Third Degree Felony

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:20 am

Texas medical marijuana!!!

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:23 am

A Texan w/ MS for medical MJ !!

cheerleader · Post by **cheerleader** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:25 am

Hey Arti...
You share the RLS/spasms nightmare with Jeff, too.
He tried ECEG/Green tea last week. I got it for fatigue, but his spasms really quieted down. He didn't even kick me last night

Jeff takes Natural Calm, baclofen, curcumin, serrapeptase, mag/zinc/calcium and now green tea- especially for spasms.
Exercise helps, but not right away, usually the day after.
Hope you find something to take the edge off.
AC

Loobie · Post by **Loobie** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:52 am

Check your PM's

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:17 am

Strange!!! I notice this often. When I am working on my computer or reading some of "Robbie's" humor, my RLS doesn't exists. It is when I am not concentrating or just sitting doing nothing that is when it acts up the worst.

When I am reading or concentrating it's gone.

I wonder what part of the mind controls this. Why can't they come up with a cure for such a nasty little problem? When I am at rest, before bed, my legs go crazy, but if I am concentrating then things are fine?
This pisses me off!!

Lars · Post by **Lars** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:05 pm

Of all the crap we are willing to inject into our system to suppress MS, why would you ever hesitate to try the MJ route? I would say over 50% of my local group medicates with MJ and the comments are overwhelmingly positive. I have cut down my prescription meds dramatically. The thought of filling my system with prescription meds forever isn't acceptable. I should add that I am in a "Legal MJ' state with a license.
Take Good Care,
Lars

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:36 pm

Lars wrote: I have cut down my prescription meds dramatically.
Lars

Thanks alot Lars, What were you taking?

cheerleader · Post by **cheerleader** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:06 am

Wanted to kick start this thread, since we have a new member, Ursula, who is in the Berlin trial and pretty sure she is getting the real EGCG deal.

I started Jeff on 600mg. of green tea extract, and he is doing quite well...has better energy throughout the afternoon, (his tough time)- and has quieter spams and better rest at night. Lots of new information on EGCG's affects on blood vessel integrity and thrombosis. Interested in this, since Jeff has "sticky blood" which has been contributing to fatigue and pain.

http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/isth ... p?id=66202
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18765187
AC

Lars · Post by **Lars** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:08 am

Arti,
Over the course of a couple years, I can't even remember. Neurontin (sp?) and about 3 other versions of it, 2 different sleep meds to get past spasms and rls, a few prescription pain meds, even morphine at one point. I quit it all and became a user/abuser of Soma, a muscle relaxer and the only thing that seemed to help. After nearly a year of it my intake probably tripled. I am told by my Neuro it is highly addictive but I really didn't care. Using MJ I rarely do Soma at this point but strangely today was one of those days. Every thing in moderation I suppose.
Lars

Artifishual · Post by **Artifishual** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:40 am

I have taken the nuerotin(sp) highway myself and all of it's relatives too. I take the occasional codeine (if available), but rarely. I now take lyrica 2-3 times a day. It seems to help, but I would like to stop taking it completely. I did take soma along time before. It was even before my DX. That is a very powerful and addicting drug. Some quack dr. I saw wrote me a script for like 300 x 3 times. I filled it once and only took about 20 or so. It made me drowsy and irritable. thanks lars , Later arti