CCSVI and CCVBP

malden · Post by **malden** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:36 am

uprightdoc wrote:...The liberation procedure offers the best hope...

Yes, it offers "the best hope", but watery, overly diluted, thin and insipid results.
All that with a great cost for the Liberated and a huge profit for Liberators.

So, when the Hope is down, still are here Faith and Charity.

concerned · Post by **concerned** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:44 am

Thank you for restoring our honor, Malden!

HappyPoet · Post by **HappyPoet** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:48 am

uprightdoc wrote:Poet, I live very close to Albany.

You might recognize Dome Island on Lake George in the Adirondacks in my avatar picture... that's my 30' sailboat, Beachcomber; she's in dry-dock now, but I hope to be able to sail her again someday.

uprightdoc wrote:I am in the middle of many things at this time and four weeks would not give me much time to prepare for a presentation. I could do something impromptu perhaps and I wouldn't mind meeting Dr. Haake as I sent him a copy of my book. I will have to give it some consideration.

Yes, it may be too late to make changes to the planned itinerary, but it would be wonderful if you could still attend and meet Dr. Haacke and the others. Dr. Mehta is sponsoring the Roundtable, and Sharon Cillis is coordinating the plans.

uprightdoc wrote:Fortunately, for you there are several Atlas Orthogonal upper cervical chiorpractors in the upstate Albany area. AO uses a stylus device to adjust. I prefer hands on but they have they have been doing some terrific work. I will get back to you on a referral. Your case is one for the books. I would like to find a good DC close by if possible.

Dr. Flanagan, thank you so much for all your help. Having hope is one of the best feelings in the world. You wouldn't consider coming out of retirement, would you?

PCakes · Post by **PCakes** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:30 am

Malden wrote:Yes, it offers "the best hope", but watery, overly diluted, thin and insipid results.
All that with a great cost for the Liberated and a huge profit for Liberators.

So, when the Hope is down, still are here Faith and Charity.

If I make dark my countenance,
I shut my life from happier chance.
~Alfred Tennyson

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:33 am

Poet, It is amazing you are still standing. You must be an Amazon woman. You can join the ranks of the Spartan general. You must have strong bones. I can picture the sommersaults. You must have been tightly balled in some crashes to cause traction lesions in your lower thoracic spine. Tight ball crashes are like extreme Lhermitte maneuvers. They traction the cord. On top of that you have a old cervical fracture, and you have a venous malformation.
Still I think it well worth looking into. You will need a minimum of AP and Lateral cervical views and and open mouth odondtoid to see the upper cervical spine. I used to take BP base posterior shots as well to see down the canal. The lateral cervical view will reveal the most about degenerative changes in the bones and cartilage, which should be most interesting in your case to say the least.

HappyPoet · Post by **HappyPoet** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:35 am

Malden wrote:Yes, it offers "the best hope", but watery, overly diluted, thin and insipid results.
All that with a great cost for the Liberated and a huge profit for Liberators.

So, when the Hope is down, still are here Faith and Charity.

Malden,

So nice to see that you're doing what I told you to do by taking the time to respect the English language and stop those incredibly stupid games that made you look so foolish.

Now try to understand this: My liberation has given me hope *and* results that I am very thankful to have. The cost was most definitely worth the outlay because there will now be reductions in symptom-related costs that will be greater than the costs of liberation.

Your remarks are as watery, overly diluted, thin, and insipid as those ridiculous games you played with the English language -- your behavior is still making you look foolish.

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:40 am

Lake George is incredible and Dome Island is such an excellent feature. Hopefully you get to sail again. For now you will have to shoot for crawling first.

concerned · Post by **concerned** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:52 am

HappyPoet wrote: Your remarks are as watery, overly diluted, thin, and insipid as those ridiculous games you played with the English language -- your behavior is still making you look foolish.

I know someone looks foolish here, but I think it has more to do with insulting people with MS who speak English as a third language than someone expressing their ideas about "Liberation".

So SadPoet, how many languages do you speak? And can you speak your third language with the fluency that Malden has with English?

HappyPoet · Post by **HappyPoet** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:56 am

uprightdoc wrote:Lake George is incredible and Dome Island is such an excellent feature. Hopefully you get to sail again. For now you will have to shoot for crawling first.

LOL ... I'll be crawling my way to the Roundtable, probably with my cane -- I hope they use name tags so I can know who everyone is. It would be fantastic to meet you and everyone else!

HappyPoet · Post by **HappyPoet** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:59 am

Concerned, I hope you're having a happy day.

Edit: Since I bit once, I might as well bite twice...

The English professor in me is very happy that Malden is now taking the time to use English properly. Concerned, it seems you've quickly forgotten what I recently told you -- that I NEVER insult anyone's English skills, NEVER. I do, though, take offense to those who play games with the language I love. It seems you don't know about Malden's long history here of playing those games. Send me a PM if you'd like to discuss this further.

HappyPoet · Post by **HappyPoet** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:54 am

uprightdoc wrote:Poet, It is amazing you are still standing. You must be an Amazon woman. You can join the ranks of the Spartan general. You must have strong bones. I can picture the sommersaults. You must have been tightly balled in some crashes to cause traction lesions in your lower thoracic spine. Tight ball crashes are like extreme Lhermitte maneuvers. They traction the cord. On top of that you have a old cervical fracture, and you have a venous malformation.
Still I think it well worth looking into. You will need a minimum of AP and Lateral cervical views and and open mouth odondtoid to see the upper cervical spine. I used to take BP base posterior shots as well to see down the canal. The lateral cervical view will reveal the most about degenerative changes in the bones and cartilage, which should be most interesting in your case to say the least.

It never occurred to me that skiing could be the cause of my thoracic problems, but it all makes sense. And to think I wanted to get back on skis! I think it's time to donate my equipment. I'll stick with hoping to sail again.

Thank you for the advice on testing, and for thinking of doctors to recommend. I can't believe how much I'm learning from you on this thread.

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:32 am

Poet, You have quite a few people with exceptional experience in Atlas Orthogonal. Dr. Scott Rosa did the Chiari case I posted previously. He is way out in Rock Hill though, which isn't close for you. On the other hand, Drs. Craig and Tracey Mulhall-Wehrenberg are in Clifton Park and they have many years of post grad. The phone number is 518-383-9000.

fernando · Post by **fernando** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:48 am

Dear Doctor,

It is sad but I am afraid that there is no experienced chiropractors in all south america. Do you know anyone?

Thanks

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:40 pm

Hello Fernando, Just out of curiosity, what type of doctor took the 14x36 x-ray and put in the heel lift. If I were treating you I would do SOT to balance the top and bottom of the spine. You already had success with the heel lift. The only chiropractors I found in Argentina so far however are Dr. Roxanna Pussetto in Santa Fe (03465 470542). The other is in Cordoba. Her name is Dr. Shirley Eichinger (0353 15 400403). Let me know if they are reasonably close. If not, maybe they know someone closer to you. I don't know their experience but they do knee chest upper cervical. Your curves complicate things a little bit but they are both equiped with x-ray units and should be able to handle it.

costumenastional · Post by **costumenastional** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:21 pm

uprightdoc wrote:Nonetheless you may have torn connective tissues.

Dear Dr Flanagan, good morning from Athens. Are you referring to connective tissues inside - around the cervical spine? I thought that there is nothing between the Atlas and the Axis, not even discs. Would you care to elaborate when possible?