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Just found out I posted something without doing some homework so I removed it ................
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NZer1 wrote:Just found out I posted something without doing some homework so I removed it ................
O,o,o...... :mrgreen:
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I did some more researching and it appears that the article has been followed up, and also that the way the article was worded was causing disillusion of the primary findings.

Bottom line is that nerve conduction needs more research to clarify what signaling action occurs. This could mean imo that many assumptions in the past have caused some illnesses to be misrepresented. The other factor is the 'Sciences' may have assumed that they are treating things when they are not. Eg that nerve conduction is the focus for Chiropractors and Physiotherapists etc when they are effecting something quite different, imo!

A later article on the same researchers
http://phys.org/news/2014-09-nerve-impu ... ected.html

The original article that 'seems' to misrepresent what has been found
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/scien ... y-1.671526
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Nerve conduction is certainly a focus for chiropractors, osteopaths, physical therapists, neurologists and neurosurgeons - and rightfully so. Nerve conduction problems are real clincial entities, not science experiments that have no clinical value. Faulty nerve conduction is something that can be tested clinically and measured electrically. No one checks for the sound conduciton of pinched nerves, at least not yet. Sound conduction tests are for the ears.
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Hi Dr, my point was that the method of conduction is not as previously assumed. That the ion flow is not the only conductor and that imo introduces the bio-energetic influences that have been challenging minds for centuries.

The effects on sound conduction compared with ion conduction mean a difference to treatment goals imo.

The subtle changes that occur are sub clinical and the cellular memory storage and retrieval has not been defined. My personal experiences with clinical symptoms and conduction testing shows that GP's and Specialists have set the bar for px to be acknowledged as having a problem to high and that means the Dr's are brushing px off!
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Both light and sound are known conductors in Physics speak so why would we Humans not be part of those forms of energy transmission?
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So if a patient comes in with a trigeminal neuralgia or a radiculopathy, such as sciatica, how does this new found knowledge change the clinical approach to diagnosis and treatment. Are EMG's no longer valid?
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Is that what you understood?

I would 'imagine' that there is an opportunity to look for more reasons for a health problem, a different dimension of logic. Not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

The evidence in Science covers a % of the problem and learning that nerves perform in difficult to measure ways is helping not hindering knowledge.

Many conclusions in Health are adjusted as technology 'sees' new aspects and as you are publishing about fluids Dr there is more to be learned and understood. The lymph system in the brain has been documented with the old knowledge and technology and the new finding of actual pathways of lymph fluid is challenging Science to look and think again. That in turn will no doubt meet resistance.
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Abstract
Loss of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) occurs commonly in daily neurosurgical practice. Understanding the altered physiology following CSF loss is important for optimization of patient care and avoidance of complications. There is overwhelming evidence now that the cerebral venous system plays a major role in intracranial pressure (ICP) dynamics especially when one takes into account the effects of postural changes, atmospheric pressure, and gravity on the craniospinal axis as a whole. The CSF and cerebral venous compartments are tightly coupled in two important ways. CSF is resorbed into the venous system, and there is also an evolved mechanism that prevents overdrainage of venous blood with upright positioning known as the Starling resistor. With loss of CSF pressure, this protective mechanism could become nonfunctional which may result in posture-related venous overdrainage through the cranial venous outflow tracts leading to pathologic states. This review article summarizes the relevant anatomic and physiologic basis of the relationship between the craniospinal venous and CSF compartments in the setting of CSF diversion. It is hoped that this article improves our understanding of ICP dynamics after CSF loss, adds a new dimension to our therapeutic methods, stimulates further research into this field, and ultimately improves our care of these patients.
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NZer1 wrote: ... Bottom line is that nerve conduction needs more research to clarify what signaling action occurs. This could mean imo that many assumptions in the past have caused some illnesses to be misrepresented. The other factor is the 'Sciences' may have assumed that they are treating things when they are not. Eg that nerve conduction is the focus for Chiropractors and Physiotherapists etc when they are effecting something quite different, imo!...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromyography

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocardiography

The new hypothesis regarding sound waves in nerve conduction is interesting and enlightening fun scientific fodder but not very useful clinically. The clinical relevance of the electrical model of nerve and muscle conduction, on the other hand, is highly relevant and its usefulness is not limited to chiropractors and physiotherapists. It is also important to many other health professionals.
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Terrific study Nigel. It's too bad it's not the entire paper. I discuss slit ventricles and overdrainage by shunts and lumbar taps, as well as intracranial hypotension and hypovolemia in my next book, which is guaranteed to turn some heads. They are just starting to catch on. Craniospinal hydrodynamics is clinically very relevant.
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Wish I was born 50 years later!
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I'll put my question up again. Dr are you able to comment please?

"On MRI are the ventricles similar size/area in a left/right comparison?

If you drew a line front to rear of an MRI would it be normal for a % of difference in image but there are indicators for abnormal and further clinical tests if there are types of shapes or noticeable area differences? "

Just had another appointment with a new GP at the Medical centre where I live, she is qualified as a Neuro but in Argentina, so has settled as a GP here for 10 years. The psychological component of my health has distracted her and she has become stuck on that and won't talk openly about what else is happening which to me shows a lack of knowledge about hydrocephalus and the challenges that a person faces after 10 years of trying to get an understanding of what is occurring and causing disability/mobility issues/cognitive issues and the rest of the list. It's hard to keep battling and self educating to be told that I spend too much time on my health!
With the heat at present I have been experiencing chronic head ache increases and have to lie down for quick relief and a neck cool aid also fixes the head aches almost instantly. These head aches have been a problem that is ever present but heat makes it one of the most important things at this moment. The Dr didn't talk more about it and when I asked why and if there might be a link to all symptoms and especially the hydrocephalus/NPH that I have been asking for clarity on she looked at her watch and began the is there anything else speech to wind up and move me on! And Life goes on .....................

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The left and right lateral ventricles are roughly the same size. A slight difference is size is insignificant. The third and fourth ventricles are single midline compartments.

Very few neurologists are dialed into research regarding the craniocervical junction or craniospinal hydrodynamics. Neurosurgeons and radiologists are the experts.

You should get your cervical spine checked and worked on. Cervical strains are a common cause of headaches.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... -1.2513178
. Bennet Omalu believes Simpson may have sustained brain damage in an 11-year pro football career that preceded his celebrity and the disgrace that followed his 1995 murder trial. Omalu stated his theory in an interview with People magazine.
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