all things vitamin D

pinpricks · Post by **pinpricks** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:06 am

You know that ...
But this VIT D connection seems to me too obvious.
-1- On the equator daytime and night time is equal
-2- Northern country have long night in winter but LONG days in summer (because of the inclination of earth obviously). So we can assume it's the same thing if we do the average ... unless people stay inside.
Since peoples wears clothing even at the equator ... i don't think they stay bare at the beach the whole day ... Arabic peoples are whole dressed, they don't want to be burned!
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On the other hand
- Wheat (gluten) for example is consumed mostly in northern/southern (developed ...) country
- Rice (no gluten) with Asian people (as i was told, looking at TV for example)
- Millet (no gluten) is in the Africa (again as i was told).

So it looks the same pattern ...

The only problem i have is with Brazil for example, i don't know ...

Take care

Post by **jimmylegs** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:06 pm

you can look at studies of ms risk in similar culture, comparing levels of d3 in the blood, and watch the ms risk drop as d3 levels rise.
and it doesn't have to be gluten OR d3 - food sensitivities are another facet of the immune system question..

patientx · Post by **patientx** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:54 am

Does anyone have information on the beneficial effects of certain mushrooms for MS? I came across this PowerPoint presentation:

http://media.sos.endofinternet.net/docs ... ster2_.ppt

skydog · Post by **skydog** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:46 am

Paul Stamitz of Fungi Perfecti has allot of info on med mushrooms I haven't spent much time searching this yet. Some great stuff in mushrooms Vita D and easily absorbed trace minerals. Fungi Perfecti®: medicinal mushroom information. google his site and see what you can find. All thumbs on the computer and couldn't figure out how to view your power point. I love our local wild mushrooms in season. And have thought about growing some since we have an ideal climate for them. Kinda feel like one right now !!! Cant wait for some sun hear in the northwest. Peace Mark

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:19 am

The point the author makes, may also be relevant for the evaluation of ABX as a potential MS therapie:

http://machineslikeus.com/news/vitamin- ... ne-disease

--Frank

patientx · Post by **patientx** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:54 pm

I started reading this article, with some trepidation, but stopped halfway through when I came to one name: Marshall.

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:32 pm

Whats the matter with him?

--Frank

Post by **jimmylegs** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:43 pm

iffy methodology and shaky conclusions if i remember correctly. looked into it in '06 i think it was? i'm reaching a bit for details... but i think my reaction was along the lines of yes, some people might have excess 1,25 dihydroxyd3, but that doesn't apply to everyone, and it doesn't mean that optimizing 25 hydroxy stores is a bad thing for everyone. i'd have to go back over it all and refresh my memory to be sure!

patientx · Post by **patientx** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:38 pm

Frank wrote:Whats the matter with him?

I don't mean to bash the guy, but Dr. Marshall is not a medical doctor, and has no medical training. He has a PhD in electrical engineering.

But qualifications aside, his theory is questionable, at best. Much of it is based on computer simulations. I don't believe he has done any work in-vitro.

RuSmolikova · Post by **RuSmolikova** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:38 am

http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseact ... ageid=1334

Post by **jimmylegs** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:05 am

there's a lot of literature out there to be read on d3 and ms

peekaboo · Post by **peekaboo** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:53 am

Hi RuSmolikova -

I purused the link you supplied. Lot of pro vitamin D info as opposed to the first essay stating that vit D is an after effect from ms and actually promote ms symptoms.

With all these studies out there one will say coffee is bad for you and then a new on says it can be good for you (antioxidant) It comes down to going with what you believe and what you are willing to risk. I am pro vitamin D. I am pretty much house bound and get very little D naturally. And the other benefits of D relating to breast cancer and other deseases are promising too .

Good website - I will bookmark it for future reading.

chrishasms · Post by **chrishasms** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:17 am

sou · Post by **sou** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:22 am

Hi.

Indeed, it could exacerbate autoimmune diseases. But not a word about MS. Why do many studies conclude that vitamin D prevents such diseases? And how sure are we that MS is autoimmune? Unlike other such diseases, the evidence of autoimmunity and MS is lacking.

sou

patientx · Post by **patientx** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:26 am

I know I keep harping on this, but the article about the negative effects of Vitamin D is based on the ideas of Trevor Marshall. This isn't anything really new; he's been saying this for years. And everything in the article is a re-hash of what he's already written. I won't go into his ideas; I think he has a website where you can read all about it. But suffice it to say he and his small following are the only ones advocating this.

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