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Re: herbs that help MS ,the EAE Model

Post by jackD » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:24 pm

I looked for experimental autoimmune encephalomyelitis (EAE) model exp.
made with plants or natural subs.

Resveratrol(Grapes) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19022403
Silibinin (Milk thistle) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18038905
Aloe vera http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233107
Berberine(Berberis, Coptis ) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20622114
Cannabinoid(cannabis) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21094240
Oleanolic acid(Clove,Thyme,sage,rosmarin) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19679109
Curcumin(Turmeric) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539560
Olive leaf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386399

what you think about it ?
I can give you LOTS of answers but you will be required to do some reading and thinking.

I have a massive amout of GOOD info on WHY and HOW many of these things, and many more, can help the MS problem by protecting Myelin from damage. It all comes for the NIH-NLM. I have both the abstracts and full text articles in many cases.

I do not understand why there is not more discussion here on this board about this stuff.

I would like your comments and feedback if you want my info.

Most of the time I think I am only talking to myself.

I regret seeming so negative but some negative experiences have had their effect.

You already have some good info from the right source.

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Re: Ginkgo

Post by lyndacarol » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:49 pm

In the conclusion of this second article posted by Dignan, it was stated there were no side effects reported for ginkgo. Apparently, some have been discovered since this article posted in 2006; yesterday Dr. Oz related that ginkgo is a natural painkiller for headaches, especially migraines, but that ginkgo is not advised for diabetics because it raises insulin levels (about 5:30 in this video).

In searching for an appropriate thread to post this ginkgo information, I discovered that many people are using it – believing it would help MS, I used it for many years too, but have now discontinued.

Nowhere else have I heard of this ginkgo/insulin connection:


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Re: Ginkgo

Post by jimmylegs » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:52 am

i love ginkgo it makes you smarter :D i took it for increased blood flow/nutrient delivery to tissue. did not expect the brainiac result! lol! just showed how totally out of it i was before...

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Re: herbals

Post by dez2000 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:11 am

Who do you want for your doctor? A few year ago, the AMA published the average life span of doctors was 56 years. They have stopped. I wonder Why.
I have read the Bio’s of many natural health doctors, dietitians and researchers.
Most seemed to lived 70 to 90 odd years, one to a 108 and he had diabetes and only had complications the last 2 years.

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Re: THe Herb Ruta

Post by yigalby » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:23 am

here is full text that i just found about ruta tea:

Potassium channel blockers from Ruta - a new approach for the treatment of multiple sclerosis

and somthing in german:
Ruta Graveolens bei Multipler Sklerose: zum Stand der klinischen Forschung
http://www.carstens-stiftung.de/wissen/ ... chober.pdf

it seems that people drink the tea ,and got respond , i will tell my freind with MS about it.
he have many ruta plants around his house.
yigalby wrote:Known from ancient times been used widely in folk medicine.

linked to MS problems reported a while ago:
Potassium channel blockers from Ruta--a new approach for the treatment of multiple sclerosis

and now again
4-Phenoxybutoxy-substituted heterocycles--a structure-activity relationship study of blockers of the lymphocyte potassium channel Kv1.3.

the importance of this is written here
Kv1.3 potassium channels as a therapeutic target in multiple sclerosis.

i had a research about ruta and eye problems of MS patients,
but it seems i lost him and can`t find it now.

ruta have rutin ,btw..
i`m not fully understand what this Kv1.3 mean and do..hope you will get it better than i.

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Re: herbals KALAWALLA

Post by seeva » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:18 am

Dear Tanya my name is seeva from Australia try to get Kalawalla from USA. please let me know the best supplier details so that I can order on Ebuy.

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Re: herbals

Post by metabolic » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:23 am

With all the praise of Vinpocetine
Has anyone considered this?

Does anyone have comments?
Calcium Citrate
R-Lipoic Acid
Zinc Glycinate
Mixed Magnesium chelates
5000I D3
Vitamin C Ascorbic Acid
Vitamin B Complex
Lamb liver every week

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Re: herbals

Post by NHE » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:48 am

metabolic wrote:With all the praise of Vinpocetine
Has anyone considered this?

Does anyone have comments?
That looks like an interesting article. You can get the full version at the following link.


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2013 review: herbal medicines contamination

Post by jimmylegs » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:02 pm

Contamination and adulteration of herbal medicinal products (HMPs): an overview of systematic reviews (2013)
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 012-1353-z

The aim of this overview of systematic reviews is to summarise and critically evaluate the evidence from systematic reviews of the adulteration and contamination of herbal medicinal products (HMPs).

Five electronic databases were searched to identify all relevant systematic reviews.

Twenty-six systematic reviews met our inclusion criteria. The most commonly HMPs were adulterated or contaminated with dust, pollens, insects, rodents, parasites, microbes, fungi, mould, toxins, pesticides, toxic heavy metals and/or prescription drugs. The most severe adverse effects caused by these adulterations were agranulocytosis, meningitis, multi-organ failure, perinatal stroke, arsenic, lead or mercury poisoning, malignancies or carcinomas, hepatic encephalopathy, hepatorenal syndrome, nephrotoxicity, rhabdomyolysis, metabolic acidosis, renal or liver failure, cerebral edema, coma, intracerebral haemorrhage, and death. Adulteration and contamination of HMPs were most commonly noted for traditional Indian and Chinese remedies, respectively.

Collectively these data suggest that there are reasons for concerns with regards to the quality of HMPs. Adulteration and contamination of HMPs can cause serious adverse effects. More stringent quality control and its enforcement seem to be necessary to avoid health risks.

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