CCSVI and CCVBP

fee001 · Post by **fee001** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:17 pm

Uprightdoc,

Something is puzzling me, and you are the perfect person to ask.

Before any chiro treatment, I saw NHS physio who introduced me to acupuncture. she did it mainly using the bladder meridian.

Bottom line of that is I experienced constant little improvements, when sessions came to an end saw neuro to extend treatment was told not entitled unless I worsoned (yeah made sense to me to) Anyway I continued privately, through a friend of my sister who was a sports physio, my sister is a nurse by the way, so has contacts. Anyway I digress, when progress stabilised I ceased treatment. Anyway the benefits were massive my bladder strengthened 100%, although messages to start dont get through yet I presume will rectify.

I believe that the twisting of my spine, affected my bladder, but why do you think the acupuncture have affect before chiropractic treatment

Also I might have told you this already, just can't keep track at mo. But if you google Dr windman atlas then cross reference the bladder meridian to her diagram and you will see the problem areas and meridian practically match. There has to be a link.

Also since this is my third year that I do NOT any longer have heat intolerance. that again is a massive plus as was awful. The conclusion I come to as to why that has happened,is, we waste heat energy from our bodies via the bladder, again very interesting eh! and extremely plausable.

If you have dozed off, you can wake up now I've finished.

Fiona

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:57 am

Good morning Fee,

Speaking of the Bl meridian, I'm working on my first cup of coffee. Coffee is a diuretic. Excess coffee irritates and weakens the Bl meridian.

The interior of the body is linked to the exterior body by nerves and other channels. The Chinese call the pores, or penetrating points of the body luo. Skin reflexes control the luo. They constrict and we turn white when we are cold. They dilate and we turn red when we are hot. Neuologically speaking, different parts of the vegetative autonomic nervous system (ANS) are connected to different structures from which they develop in the embryo. If you pinch the neck muscles you cause the pupil of the eye to dilate. If you massage the carotid sinus in the neck you will lower pulse rate and blood pressure.

Parts of the lower colon, the reproductive organs and bladder are connected to the legs. You can similarly tonify or sedate the bladder by using autonomic surface reflexes and pathways in the legs and low back. The control of the Bl lies in the brainstem. The bladder itself is physically close to the parasympathetic of the lower portion of the ANS. The Bl meridian is the meridian of the spine. Except for the cervical spine it covers all the other segments twice. The kidney and bladder are involved in many conditions connected to the spine.

The kidneys are a major source of heat and chi (adrenal glands). The glomerular filtration process they use also serve as counter current heat exchangers that sit beneath the bottom and steam the lungs to produce vapor. The lungs work with the kidneys and bladder to eliminate water and control acid base balance. Weak, cold kidneys cause fluid to accumulate in the lungs such as in pneumonia or asthma. Urine should be warm. It definitely takes heat out of the body.

It's still early here and I'm just getting going. I hope I answered your question.

fee001 · Post by **fee001** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:51 am

Thanx for that, interesting.

Good morning! by the way, lunch time here

Fiona

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:40 am

Your welcome. Hope you enjoy your tea time. I'm heading out for a twenty-three mile bicycle ride along one of our local rivers. They will be flowing fast after the hurricane rains hit tomorrow.

fee001 · Post by **fee001** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:58 am

Uprightdoc

What do you know about CIDP, as many symptoms cross over to ms, plus I had several, especially upper body weakness, plus dexterity probs but my upper body strength is returning, Sometimes they are so vague with symptoms they can mean anything. Atlhas that as and Candida spring to mind. As for painful feet Montel Williams has that thats why he shifts from foot to foot.

The symptoms of Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyneuropathy include numbness, tingling, burning and weakness, generally occurring in the feet first and they gradually ascend to involve other parts of the body. One of the first signs that could develop is a foot drop, where patients develope weakness in their ankles and as a result tend to trip over their feet, or they could develop numbness and tingling in the feet and toes which gradually spreads to to the other parts of the body. Other organs could also become involved including inability to adequately empty the bladder, nausea, vomiting, abdominal fullness or bloating, diarrhea, or constipation, low blood with dizziness, or trouble maintaining an erection. The severity and the combination of symptoms vary. Some could have only numbness and tingling only, others could have weakness only. Some patients are severely affected and they could become completely paralyzed and have severe numbness and tingling. Others have a very slow progression with mild disease. These patients often complain of difficulty with walking. They develop poor balance and cannot walk for long periods of time.

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:07 am

Montel Williams is African-American. It is my contention that Asian and African race design differences in the posterior fossa react differently to whiplash trauma that cause violent inversion flows into the brain. While their skull designs protect them from inversion flows they are nonetheless just as susceptible to brain and cord trauma. I suspect that certain cases CIDP may be a variant of MS similar to Devics or Optic Spinal Multiple Sclerosis without the scars in the brain or cord. In other cases it can be due to many systemic conditions such as candida etc.

Ruthless67 · Post by **Ruthless67** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:00 am

Hi Doctor,

I found this post on another thread.

the work of Professor David Pleasure of the University of California Davis .....

This caught my eye .......

" In MS , these abnormal cells are found in and around plaques in the brain and spinal cord , where there is evidence of damage to myelin sheaths and axons. In patients with Alzheimer's disease or after recurrent
head trauma , these abnormal cells are scattered throughout the brain " End of quote.

I have long thought the association between MS and trauma are linked. I believe that neck veins are compressed by the swelling caused by injury.
Once collapsed ..... internal blood pressure cannot force the vessel open again . Collateral drainage begins. But it is not enough.

It's as good a theory as there is ........

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/33/ ... e4eedd0508

Mr.Success

Thought it was interesting and I had not read anything of Prof. Pleasure before.

Lora

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:05 pm

Hi Lora,
I only got to read what was quoted as well as on the link but it sounds interesting. The only thing I would add is that the hyperintensity signals in AD are usually periventricular similar to MS. In vascular AD the hyperintensity signals are more likely to be scattered throughout the brain. Classic AD is more likely to be associated with decreased venous and CSF flow problems. Vascular AD is typically due to poor arterial circulation.

MrSuccess · Post by **MrSuccess** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:05 pm

good move bringing that post of mine over to here Ruthless , but the three most important words - recurrent head trauma somehow
did not show up in bold form as I intended it to be.

And that was my point.

And now a question for the Upright Doctor :

The fundamental question we all want the answer to is , does reduced or stopped bloodflow OUT of the brain cause the difficulties pwMS have ?

I say YES.

As we know .... restricted or stopped bloodflow INTO the brain has dire consequences. Stroke .... death . This is a fact.

Can you please answer the following question ?

In Law enforcement , there is a self defence manouver often used to subdue criminals. It is applied as follows . The officer will get behind the person they want to control . They reach around the suspect's neck with one arm and make a "vee" with their arm. Using the other arm , they apply pressure by squeezing against the cartoid artery. oo>
As the suspects windpipe is NOT compressed , due to the space allowed by this hold , there is no danger of suffocating. Breathing is normal.

However , the pressure exerted on the SIDE of the neck , on the cartoid artery , causes the suspect to almost immediatly , lose consciousness.

Some people call this the "sleeper hold."

The person will quickly regain consciousness ..... but by then they are often securely hand cuffed.

I might add , Mr.Success has neither applied nor had applied this law enforcement technique.

This in my mind clearly illustrates the effect of blood flow in the brain

Can you explain what exactly happens here ? Airflow-Yes Bloodflow No.

Thank you

Mr.Success

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:56 am

Hello Mr. Success,

It is my contention that obstruction to CSF and venous blood outflow from the brain can lead to neurodegenerative conditions such as MS. The second part of your question is a completely different issue.

The sleeper hold you describe is a classic Judo (wrestling) strangle maneuver that is taught to police officers. It is called Hadaka Jime, which means naked choke. It is a naked choke because you use your bare hands. In a judo match a player must tap out to indicate they surrender when the choke is applied. If it is applied incorrectly you can tuck your chin, resist the hold and even escape. If it is done correctly, you only have seconds to decide to tap out in surrender before passing out. In contrast to CSF and venous outflow Hadaka Jime cuts off the carotid artery supply to the brain. Temporary disruptions in arterial blood flow to the brain are called transient ischemic attacks or mini strokes. Many types of head trauma from sports are associated with TIAs. Over time, they can do damage.

fee001 · Post by **fee001** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:15 am

Uprightdoc,

I hope you dont mind but I have two questions to ask.

Does the Atlas become misaligned naturally through the aging process causing blood flow in the neck to be affected, and possibly causing a change in blood pressure, circulation and mobility etc

Also I have been aware of stress/tension build up in my right upper back, to such a degree has an affect on funtioning abilities. Could this type of stress/tension affect Atlas alignment.

Thanx
Fiona

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:40 am

Hi Fee,
Yes the upper cervical spine like the rest of the spine is subject to misalignments due to spondylosis and scoliosis as a result of aging.

Tension in the upper back can be coming from the trapezius muscles which start at the occiput on the lower rear portion of the skull and go down to about midway on the thoracic spine. The trapezius are major neck and shoulder muscles.

I will be away for the weekend. One of my nieces is getting married.

fee001 · Post by **fee001** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:01 am

Uprightdoc,

You're not biking there are you?

Just kidding, have a nice time.

Fiona

MrSuccess · Post by **MrSuccess** » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:44 am

Thanks for your reply. I just wanted to establish the fact that the brain is a very delicate organ . And that any disruption can in fact , cause harm.

There are several video examples on the Net , that demonstrate the " sleeper hold".

I have no idea why there is such resistance in some medical circles , to the idea that blood flow either IN or OUT of the brain has little or no effect .

A good question to put to a doubting Neurologist is to ask them ....

What happens when blood flow is stopped from entering my brain ? "

Sit patiently and wait them out . Then ask ........

What happens when blood flow is slowed or stopped from exiting my brain ?

If they offer you a good supply of drugs ....... maybe you need another doctor .

Dr.Zamboni is right.

Mr.Success

uprightdoc · Post by **uprightdoc** » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:54 am

The brain is indeed very sensitive to changes in blood flow. In fact it uses a special system called the neurovascular myogenic autoregulatory reflex mechanism, or cerebral autoregulation to maintain relatively steady blood flow.

The sleeper hold or Hadaka Jime cuts off just one carotid artery. The trick is to use the cutting edge of your wrist. It is even more effective when applied with a nightstick. Collar chokes such Nami juji jime cut off both carotid arteries.