90 Minute Webb Forum into CCSVI

[charlie656]

Some screen shots I took of Zivadinov's slides. These are all I got. Not sure if they are the most relevant

[magoo]

There were so many positives....so why do I feel so discouraged?

[TFau]

I feel the same. I'm a bit worn out from thinking about the discrepancy between the Buffalo data and everyone else's data.

[LR1234]

I still personally believe that the venograms will really sort the controls from the MS patients.

Maybe refluxes do occur in healthy controls but maybe they still don't have the true blockages that MS patients have and at night when the MS patient is asleep is when all the damage is being done.

[joanp]

can anyone explain what those numbers really mean on that chart. my mind blanks out when i look at them!

[sofia]

i watched it all. i can't say i understood it all, but i was left with a positive feeling. i am so happy i am going to bulgaria in a month to be liberated. i even feel more enthusiastic after wathching it, then i was before.
as i am not a doctor and i dont really understand it all, i get convinced by listening to the patiens. to me it is not important if it is the cause of ms, or if it is caused by ms, i don't need it to be measured in scans and leasions, i just need to feel better.
my gut feeling says that antibiotics and clamydiae pneumoniae is probably the most likely explenation, and i will start the antibiotics later on this year, but i am as most of you desperate to get well, and i don't want to leave any stone unturned. so i want to have a go with this operation.
as they said on the show, we can't just ignore what the patients are reporting, and brush it off as placebo, cause i am pretty sure that it feels very real for all of you that has had your life improved after having the procedure. and feeling better and getting on with our lives must be the goal.
look at the sience they just presented, but also look at all the patient testemonies, there must be a conection
so off to sofia in a bit less then a month, will start counting down days soon [/quote]

[sofia]

and good point LR1234, i think that as well.
well probably because the doctor on there thought so lol

[FlashHack]

Generally, the most important number is the "p-value." In statistics, this is the probability of seeing a result by chance. Most statisticians consider a p-value less than 0.05 (i.e., 5%) to be significant and less than 0.01 (i.e., 1%) to be highly-significant. BNAC's p-values were very compelling, and as Zivadinov indicated, the newer equipment will certainly decrease the number of false readings (both positive and negative) that they had in the original study.

[zinamaria]

Hi Flashhack,
I used to live in Portland, how's the weather?
And does anyone know how we can view this video if we missed it live?
thanx
Z

[FlashHack]

http://hosted.mediasite.com/mediasite/V ... 235beef9a9

It's spring, so it depends on the minute you are asking. Mostly green and wet.

[zinamaria]

Thanks FlashHack..I remember those days...don't miss them either.
I tried the link you posted and my computer told me I was not authorized to view it....I am not very well advanced technologically and tend to think there is a tiny person behind my screen talking to me....any other option?
Z

[FlashHack]

Looks like they have taken it down off of mediasite.com. There is a green box on the nmss that says "COMING SOON-Recording of..." so you can probably view it from there at some point.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/resear ... index.aspx