Low body temperature - MS related or just a quirk?
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I usually come in at 36.1 or 36.2 (today 35.9). The warmer I am, though, the more I lose function. I have gotten used to thinking of my lower temperature as a good thing - an adjustment my body has made to tamp down the inflammations.
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I too have a very low basal body temperature, around 95.4 rising to around 96.9 during the day. When I have flu it goes up to 98 or 99 which for others would be normal but for me it is hell. Not suprisingly, I also suffer from heat fatigue and hot water fatigue.
After a recent lumbar puncture my temperature shot up 3 degrees in the space of an hour from 95.4 to 98.4 and I felt exteremly hot, fatigued and ill. The (junior) doctor present simply said: "What's the problem? Your temperature reading is actually normal!" This illustrates how much ignorance there is about this low temperature phenomenon in medical circles.
I also have borderline low thyroid which my neurologist consistently brushes aside. It was interesting to read in one of the earlier posts that thyroid helps myelin repair, maybe this accounts for low thyroid levels, especially if there is a more widespread, subtle demyelination going on which is not picked up by scans and nerve conduction tests.
On the other hand, the main function of the thyroid hormone is to govern the body's basic metabolic rate (which is like the idling speed of a car engine). This is almost certainly why people with low thyroid levels have a low body temperature.
Could MS inflammation simply arise from a metabolic flaw in nerve cells? Could that flaw be brought on by the presence of certain viruses like EBV, VZV or other micro organisms? It brings to mind that Egyptian study in 2008 where they discovered that there is a metabolic flaw in MS and that the by product of this flaw is...you guessed it...excess iron deposits:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408021
Talisker, I would be extemely interested to read that information about the body being unable to synthesise ATP from creatine (because ATP transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism) The link you provided was broken.
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After a recent lumbar puncture my temperature shot up 3 degrees in the space of an hour from 95.4 to 98.4 and I felt exteremly hot, fatigued and ill. The (junior) doctor present simply said: "What's the problem? Your temperature reading is actually normal!" This illustrates how much ignorance there is about this low temperature phenomenon in medical circles.
I also have borderline low thyroid which my neurologist consistently brushes aside. It was interesting to read in one of the earlier posts that thyroid helps myelin repair, maybe this accounts for low thyroid levels, especially if there is a more widespread, subtle demyelination going on which is not picked up by scans and nerve conduction tests.
On the other hand, the main function of the thyroid hormone is to govern the body's basic metabolic rate (which is like the idling speed of a car engine). This is almost certainly why people with low thyroid levels have a low body temperature.
Could MS inflammation simply arise from a metabolic flaw in nerve cells? Could that flaw be brought on by the presence of certain viruses like EBV, VZV or other micro organisms? It brings to mind that Egyptian study in 2008 where they discovered that there is a metabolic flaw in MS and that the by product of this flaw is...you guessed it...excess iron deposits:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408021
Talisker, I would be extemely interested to read that information about the body being unable to synthesise ATP from creatine (because ATP transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism) The link you provided was broken.
gainsbourg
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I've had a lower body temperature for most of my life and it's been that way even prior to my dx. 98.6 (37C) is a fever for me. I think I'm a few degrees below normally, but don't quote me on it. Haven't had it checked recently.
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Well this is a pretty old thread...
Guess what?
Just took my temp = 97.5 deg F
Guess what else?
Lyme, yes Lyme lowers your body temperature!
I have read research describing how Lyme thrives best at 35-37 deg C (95-98.6 deg F).
Is the Lyme trying to lower our body temps by restricting blood flow (Lyme causes vasculitis) causing lower temps?
I met with a LLMD (lyme-literate MD) today (over 30 years experience!) and she feels Lyme is "highly suspicious" in my case. I begin my abx tonight! She also said "Chronic Lyme" is becoming less controversial!
She ordered more tests for co-infections and CD-57 so we'll have a clearer picture when those come back.
(Lyme also causes heat intolerance! Go figure!)
My story continues in 2 weeks...
Guess what?
Just took my temp = 97.5 deg F
Guess what else?
Lyme, yes Lyme lowers your body temperature!
I have read research describing how Lyme thrives best at 35-37 deg C (95-98.6 deg F).
Is the Lyme trying to lower our body temps by restricting blood flow (Lyme causes vasculitis) causing lower temps?
I met with a LLMD (lyme-literate MD) today (over 30 years experience!) and she feels Lyme is "highly suspicious" in my case. I begin my abx tonight! She also said "Chronic Lyme" is becoming less controversial!
She ordered more tests for co-infections and CD-57 so we'll have a clearer picture when those come back.
(Lyme also causes heat intolerance! Go figure!)
My story continues in 2 weeks...
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Al Einstein
well i went back over to see what earlier response i had made, which turned out to be potassium, thiamine, and iron.
i have to now add that low zinc is also associated with low body temperature, in addition to being seen in ms patients.
Zinc deficiency, DNA damage and cancer risk
E. Ho / Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry 15 (2004) 572–578
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6304001408
The pathological signs of zinc deficiency include stunted growth, impaired
parturition (dystocia), neuropathy, decreased food intake, diarrhea, dermatitis, hair loss, bleeding tendency, hypotension and hypothermia.
i have to now add that low zinc is also associated with low body temperature, in addition to being seen in ms patients.
Zinc deficiency, DNA damage and cancer risk
E. Ho / Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry 15 (2004) 572–578
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6304001408
The pathological signs of zinc deficiency include stunted growth, impaired
parturition (dystocia), neuropathy, decreased food intake, diarrhea, dermatitis, hair loss, bleeding tendency, hypotension and hypothermia.
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Hi!
Now this is really interesting, as mine used to be slightly under just slightly, unfortunately I broke my thermometer a few months ago.
But would be interesting to know if has reregulated to see if Candida infection was causing it.
I know my heat intolerance was bladder related as the bladder wastes heat energy, all I can think of now is if you regularly catherterise would this then elliminate bodyheat/temperature that should naturally be retained??????
I dont know, where a biologist when you need one eh!
Fiona
Now this is really interesting, as mine used to be slightly under just slightly, unfortunately I broke my thermometer a few months ago.
But would be interesting to know if has reregulated to see if Candida infection was causing it.
I know my heat intolerance was bladder related as the bladder wastes heat energy, all I can think of now is if you regularly catherterise would this then elliminate bodyheat/temperature that should naturally be retained??????
I dont know, where a biologist when you need one eh!
Fiona
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gainsbourg
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Just read an article claims that systemic candida lowers body temperature:fee001 wrote:That would also make sense if my temperature is now normal. As I now dont have candida.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=825975
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