thanks for clarifying lorie - i'll say again as i have before that we are all looking at the same thing from different angles and it's all interconnected. so without saying anything i haven't said before on the site - sure, there may well be gluten sensitivity and pancreatic insufficiency issues and if so, then we can ask WHY? re celiac illness i'll repost this study excerpt from earlier in this topic:
Associations between biochemical measurements and grades of villous atrophy in newly diagnosed celiac disease patients
Serum magnesium (mmol/L).....0.8 ± 0.03 (0.78–0.85)...............0.8 ± 0.07 (0.73–0.91)...............0.8 ± 0.06 (0.70–0.95)
Serum zinc (umol/L)...............11 ± 0.................................13 ± 2 ...................................12 ± 2
as i said before, these patients are deficient at diagnosis but you don't hear about anyone doing something specific and targeted about it. sources have proposed 0.90mmol/L and 0.95 mmol/L as a lower cutoff for serum magnesium. healthy controls have average levels as high as 1.1 mmol/L. and a serum zinc level of 11 is outright deficient by some standards while healthy controls more often have levels in the upper teens.
going gluten free does not make a mag and zinc poor diet better. it just takes away the depleting effect of gluten digestion. if people top up their total food intake with zinc and magnesium rich alternatives, great. but if not, i wouldn't expect them to do that much better. a little better sure, but not a lot better.
re the pancreas, i posted this on mar 30:
http://www.thisisms.com/forum/undiagnos ... ml#p223309
also, re
my personal suspicion is that gluten sensitivity, excess insulin, and resulting insulin resistance are players in many MS (or "neurological") symptoms.
from where i sit all our various perspectives are pretty interconnected, eg:
Is Serum Zinc Associated with Pancreatic Beta Cell Function and Insulin Sensitivity in Pre-Diabetic and Normal Individuals? Findings from the Hunter Community Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0083944
"Beta cell function, insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance were calculated ...
higher serum zinc concentration was associated with increased insulin sensitivity (p = 0.01) in the prediabetic group."
organs need nutrients to function, period. taking nutrient removal to the extreme, consider: "Thus, after periods of starvation, the loss of body protein affects the function of important organs, and death results, even if there are still fat reserves left unused ... The ultimate cause of death is, in general, cardiac arrhythmia or cardiac arrest brought on by tissue degradation and electrolyte imbalances."
so. do you have gluten and or pancreas issues? could well be. i consider each of them likely indicators of underlying nutritional problems that should be addressed first to see how much of the problem disappears.
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typically lowish magnesium, etc. but I thought you might be interested to see. I have a pdf if you are interested, but I don't know how to give it to you, don't know if PM works to attach a document?
i can receive files at jimmylegs2013 @ hotmail.com but i can't reply.. it wants a mobile number but i don't have one so it only half works :S weird!