Stem cell 'reboot' promising as MS cure

scorpion · Post by **scorpion** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:55 am

Beware of the word cure.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Stem ... story.html

Algis · Post by **Algis** » Mon May 03, 2010 4:35 am

One trial subject died as a result of liver toxicity, leading to changes in the study’s protocol.

Lyon · Post by **Lyon** » Mon May 03, 2010 5:35 am

scorpion · Post by **scorpion** » Mon May 03, 2010 5:05 pm

Thanks for the quote Algis I saw that bit of info. while reading the article. Did you post this specific part of the article for a reason? Just curious.

I know what you are saying Bob. It seems we get bits and pieces of the rebooting studies but none of the studies are conclusive enough where we can ever say for sure "it works". I really wish something would bite us in the ass soon!!!

MSUK · Post by **MSUK** » Mon May 03, 2010 10:55 pm

Interesting to see who the lead Investigator is.......................

caraboo · Post by **caraboo** » Tue May 04, 2010 12:41 am

Hi all,

Do you think we are maybe stealing freedmans thunder with ccsvi?

Caraboo

MSUK · Post by **MSUK** » Tue May 04, 2010 12:45 am

""The “liberation procedure,” a controversial new surgical procedure that appears to cure multiple sclerosis, is based on circumstantial evidence and MS sufferers should not rush into getting it.

“If his observation stands up to other people being able to reproduce it,” “I think we’re going to have something of interest to chase, but we need to have the supporting evidence before we start reaming out blood vessels and pretending that this is going to cure the disease."

- Dr. Mark Freedman, director of MS research unit at The Ottawa Hospital

Algis · Post by **Algis** » Tue May 04, 2010 12:46 am

I wonder where we can head after '10 or 11 years' testing on CCSVI

AMcG · Post by **AMcG** » Tue May 04, 2010 1:22 am

'Reaming out' blood vessels? He just can't resist having a dig can he? What about reaming out someone's immune system?

scorpion · Post by **scorpion** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:02 am

Why don't we just forget about the original post and talk about Freedman's view on CCSVI? That is way more important than any other research he happens to be doing. Thanks for the quotes Squiffy. They added some great insight to my post on rebooting.

AMcG · Post by **AMcG** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:18 am

You are quite right. Sorry.

Lyon · Post by **Lyon** » Tue May 04, 2010 5:03 am

LR1234 · Post by **LR1234** » Tue May 04, 2010 5:31 am

I think Dr Freedman has no right to rule something out without proper investigation as he would like the same respect when it comes to his investments/interests.

However I am happy that there looks to be 2 really good avenues opening up for us MSers: CCSVI and Stem Cells/Revimmune.

I believe that MS is an AND situation not an either/or.

I plan on doing both, anything we can do to beat this bugger of a condition!

fernando · Post by **fernando** » Tue May 04, 2010 6:34 am

24 subjects only? One death already?

Where are the controls?

Is this double blinded?

Independient replication?

And we are talking about a long lasting remission here?

scorpion · Post by **scorpion** » Tue May 04, 2010 10:27 am

Great points Fernando. I had the same questions when I read the article and I thought the phrase "long-term remission" that the author used was very vague. LR1234, I am sure there are plenty of anti-Freedman posts on the CCSVI forum if you need to exprees your utter disdain for the man.. Besides we have all been made aware over and over and over again about Freedman's views on CCSVI.

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Stem cell 'reboot' promising as MS cure

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