HIV/AIDS relationship or non-relationship with MS

[notasperfectasyou]

Both are immune system issues. In HIV the immune system is getting wiped out and in MS it's functioning in strongly misdirected ways. When Googling around for info about white blood cells, you can't help but get a lot of links that are about AIDS/HIV.

I know these are different illnesses. But, has anyone one read any articles that discuss both in a compare contrast sort of way? And has anyone ever read of a case in which someone with MS got AIDS?

These are just curious questions that I've not been able to wonder about with Google. napay

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[gibbledygook]

I heard on a web site somewhere that people with MS continue to deteriorate when they have AIDS so although they have no immune system they still get more and more disabled which really helps with the auto-immune theory. Not.

[Melody]

I heard on a web site somewhere that people with MS continue to deteriorate when they have AIDS so although they have no immune system they still get more and more disabled which really helps with the auto-immune theory. Not.

If I sound like a nut bar OOP'S
Possibilities in one equation
Immune system working overtime=MS
Immune system not working=Aids
Now what happens if instead of them both ending there the equation continues exp
Immune system working overtime=MS
Immune system not working=Aids Both =Immune system not working properly

Now they can be compared although different. These are just thoughts running around my head as you know John is on copaxone to tamper down the immune system and the diet and supplements we take are to build the immune system. That's the easy way of looking at it but in fact what we are trying to accomplish with the supplements and diet is immune system health where it's working at par. If and (it's a big IF and a GAMBLE) that maybe once the leaky gut was corrected(done) allergies under control(done) eczema gone(done) stomach bacteria at a proper balance(done or at least bloating and gas are no longer issue) restless leg (gone) fatigue(gone) heat intolerance(gone) and what ever else John had. The list was so long our friends used to tell him he was allergic to life. The copaxone is more our "We won't take the chance and wing it on our own" Maybe John's immune system was so aggressive because it just wasn't feeling well. Sort of like poking a bear with a stick. Maybe aids patients system is lethargic for the same reason just not feeling well. Again just thoughts as usual no real answers but I do know this John is feeling so much better than he did 2 years ago that he now has a life that doesn't need to stay close to home incase he needs a nap.

[jimmylegs]

all good thoughts there mel - i've read more than one study where an immune system booster did good things for ms.

i think for sure to some extent it is an immune system out of whack. it has no brakes, so it seems overactive. you have to give it what it needs to make its own brakes.

some ms patients use interferon for brakes. other people use other things. but you have to "boost" the immune system's current status so that it operates properly - you don't suppress the attack function, you boost the "okay stop now" function.